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Trump rescinds protections on 59m acres of national forest to allow logging

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      This is not world news.

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        This is not world news.

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        It kind of is seeing as that is 58m acres of trees being removed an contributing further to climate change that effects everyone....

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          It kind of is seeing as that is 58m acres of trees being removed an contributing further to climate change that effects everyone....

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          Lets new trees grow and take carbon out of the atmosphere. Lowers chances of it just burning anyway. I have no problem with logging as long as we don't sell the land.

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            This is not world news.

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            It's news about our world

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              This is not world news.

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              why is this weird like, anti-american-exceptionalism so prevalent on the internet?

              it’s so reactionary. you’re… actively engaging in the same kind of thought process that is the secret ingredient to american stupidity. if you’re not careful what’s happened and happening here will happen wherever you are, if it hasn’t already. and this sort of shit is why…

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                Lets new trees grow and take carbon out of the atmosphere. Lowers chances of it just burning anyway. I have no problem with logging as long as we don't sell the land.

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                Older trees capture carbon better than young trees.

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                  Older trees capture carbon better than young trees.

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                  From what i get from this article, this is technically true for one tree, but not for the forest, for which there is a peak in carbon capture at some point (when the canopy closes says the article), and then it can either stabilize either slowly decline. There are other huge advantages to keeping old forests intact though, especially regarding biodiversity.

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                    Older trees capture carbon better than young trees.

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                    An individual old tree may compared to an individual young tree, but a young forest captures more carbon. And that's not even accounting for if/when the old tree burns anyway.

                    *Love that facts get downvoted.

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                      why is this weird like, anti-american-exceptionalism so prevalent on the internet?

                      it’s so reactionary. you’re… actively engaging in the same kind of thought process that is the secret ingredient to american stupidity. if you’re not careful what’s happened and happening here will happen wherever you are, if it hasn’t already. and this sort of shit is why…

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                      They're not saying it's not news. They're saying that it's US news that this community prohibits.

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                        They're not saying it's not news. They're saying that it's US news that this community prohibits.

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                        I mean, the article still makes sense, just like all the articles about Bolsonaro revoking protections for the Amazon make sense, it cumulatively affects everyone, even if you're on the other side of the planet

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                          It kind of is seeing as that is 58m acres of trees being removed an contributing further to climate change that effects everyone....

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                          I have no idea how big an acre or a hectare is, I have no idea who the people the article is referring to are. I see 0 mentions of the effects this will have on global climate. All hallmarks of a US centric article. This is not world news and it clearly caters to American interests.

                          Edit: I’d love to read an article about the global ramifications of this on the whole planet in its entirety, but I’m not too keen on reading about governor XYZ of state UVW bashing republicans and The Congress.

                          That’s internal US politics that I have no interest in starting my day with.

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                            Literally, physically destroying our country.

                            Thanks conservatives. You're dumb as fuck. But everyone on Earth other than you already knew that.

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                              I have no idea how big an acre or a hectare is, I have no idea who the people the article is referring to are. I see 0 mentions of the effects this will have on global climate. All hallmarks of a US centric article. This is not world news and it clearly caters to American interests.

                              Edit: I’d love to read an article about the global ramifications of this on the whole planet in its entirety, but I’m not too keen on reading about governor XYZ of state UVW bashing republicans and The Congress.

                              That’s internal US politics that I have no interest in starting my day with.

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                              I’m not too keen on reading about governor XYZ of state UVW bashing republicans and The Congress.

                              You should be keen on reading about anybody who dares to speak up against the current US administration from the inside, instead of belittling such actions. Ultimately it does concern you, too.

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                                An individual old tree may compared to an individual young tree, but a young forest captures more carbon. And that's not even accounting for if/when the old tree burns anyway.

                                *Love that facts get downvoted.

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                                Love that facts get downvoted

                                You just claim what you said is fact, then get all prissy about it.

                                I'm sure that will get you fewer downvotes?

                                You want to have a good faith discussion about this? It's not a simple equation. All in all it's usually better to NOT cut down old forests. You have to consider the whole ecosystem.

                                Also, I'm sure Trump had our carbon emissions in mind when he rescinded those protections, hm?

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                                  I’m not too keen on reading about governor XYZ of state UVW bashing republicans and The Congress.

                                  You should be keen on reading about anybody who dares to speak up against the current US administration from the inside, instead of belittling such actions. Ultimately it does concern you, too.

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                                  If something comes of it, sure. Unfortunately it’s mostly incessant noise at this point. The only ones affecting actual change right now are SF people, and I do follow the news about that part of the country.

                                  Edit: and I am not belittling anyone, merely saying that this is regional news and an article that doesn’t belong here.

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                                    why is this weird like, anti-american-exceptionalism so prevalent on the internet?

                                    it’s so reactionary. you’re… actively engaging in the same kind of thought process that is the secret ingredient to american stupidity. if you’re not careful what’s happened and happening here will happen wherever you are, if it hasn’t already. and this sort of shit is why…

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                                    That was just exasperation (which I can understand), but their subsequent comment unfortunately shows much more of what they're about.

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                                      Love that facts get downvoted

                                      You just claim what you said is fact, then get all prissy about it.

                                      I'm sure that will get you fewer downvotes?

                                      You want to have a good faith discussion about this? It's not a simple equation. All in all it's usually better to NOT cut down old forests. You have to consider the whole ecosystem.

                                      Also, I'm sure Trump had our carbon emissions in mind when he rescinded those protections, hm?

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                                      I'm not pissy, I love watching it. Y'all's actions are your own, whatever they are. Good faith discussion starts in recognizing facts, not downvoting them. The whole ecosystem is better with a range of young and old forests. I didn't comment on Trump, I commented on facts. I think logging, like every industry, has to be done properly.

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                                        I’m not too keen on reading about governor XYZ of state UVW bashing republicans and The Congress.

                                        You should be keen on reading about anybody who dares to speak up against the current US administration from the inside, instead of belittling such actions. Ultimately it does concern you, too.

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                                        Rule 1 literally states "no internal US news". This is internal US news. Not world news.

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                                          I mean, the article still makes sense, just like all the articles about Bolsonaro revoking protections for the Amazon make sense, it cumulatively affects everyone, even if you're on the other side of the planet

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                                          The community rules state no internal US news. Plain and simple.

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