How high
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Oh yes because they've done nothing to deserve the hate, totally innocent bunch of people.
Imagine how hard it must be for anti-Semitism advocacy groups right now, the amount of mental gymnastics they have to perform in order to continue to be the victim must leave them utterly exhausted. I imagine they can only manage one whiny tweet and then they have to take a week off.
I just love how "anti-Semitism" has become "Israel can do whatever the fuck they want and never face any criticism or consequences because Jews were persecuted in the Holocaust." This now includes Israel committing its own Holocaust on Palestinians.
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called for the death of the IDF
Shoutout to genocidal military forces, gotta be one of my favorite ethnic groups
Did you read what I replied to?
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Did you read what I replied to?
I did, did you?
The entire history of white people in the Americas is displacing, betraying, exploiting, erasing, genociding the people who lived here for millennia.
It wasn't just Andrew Jackson singlehandedly organizing the Trail of Tears. The soldiers forcing the marches, the politicians breaking the treaties, the settlers stealing the land. It's a lot more than just "a few bad apples," it's systemic, it's endemic, and not much has been done to change that in the last 500 years.
So yeah, I'm gonna call you out for trying to say it's racist to hate colonizers for colonizing.
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An artist chanting words on a stage at a show.. Isn't this that freeze peach those Republicans claim to support to their dying breath?
I don't see how calling for the death of an institution that's openly committing warcrimes and even admitting to them, is really that outlandish, especially for an artist during a performance.
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I don't know Vanilla's politics, but he performed for Trump. So did the Village People, though, so who knows. Maybe Trump's a fan and threw a huge wad of cash at him.
I have no idea either. It was just the first thing I thought of, lol.
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What about the IDF bombing civilians though?
"You're now on a list and expect your phone to mysteriously fail or blow up in the next year?"
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I don't think any action against the IDF or Israel is Antisemitic in any way, shape, or form.
I also see "death to the IDF" as a statement advocating the death of the entire adult population of Israel, and we have a word for that which rhymes with engocide.
oh sorry, let's just politely ask the murderers to stop murdering for the 100th time today, maybe this time it will work!
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Remember when Republicans were upset at Universities banning racist speakers?
If not for double standards Republicans would have no standards at all.
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Bob Vylan is the band - if they're singling out the frontman, they mean Bobby Vylan (not to be confused with their drummer, Bobbie Vylan). Feels like they might be getting outraged before engaging any reading comprehension...
Well worth checking them out - loads of upcoming dates, all over the UK, EU and US. Get 'em while they're hot!
You mean Big Bob, of course.
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Michael... Bolton? So are you related to that singer guy?
Why should I change my name when he's the one who sucks?
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oh sorry, let's just politely ask the murderers to stop murdering for the 100th time today, maybe this time it will work!
Lets just do this: kill or put on trial netanyahu and any active combatants.
Just as important, establish a new rule of law in the region which will respect the value of human life and fairly dispute land claims.
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I'm not in favor of wishing death upon anyone. I find it all rather distasteful, but Bobby Vylans views seem in line with US death penalty practices, don't they? Death to those who commit the terriblest of crimes.
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Free Palestine.
The Gaza war is genocide.
Fuck the IDF.
Please prevent me from visiting the genocide loving USA.
You forgot, A Ditch for the rich, They are bankrupting entire counties that do not bow, hell they even bankrupt the ones that do.
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I don't think any action against the IDF or Israel is Antisemitic in any way, shape, or form.
I also see "death to the IDF" as a statement advocating the death of the entire adult population of Israel, and we have a word for that which rhymes with engocide.
How does "death to the IDF" mean death to the entire adult population? Regardless of mandatory service in the past, they aren't in the IDF now, and they aren't the ones "just following orders." I also don't think Bob Vylan is actually suggesting that every person in the IDF be killed, regardless of complicity, but calling for the downfall of the organization perpetuating genocide.
"Death to ICE" doesn't mean the same thing as "kill all ICE agents."
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How does "death to the IDF" mean death to the entire adult population? Regardless of mandatory service in the past, they aren't in the IDF now, and they aren't the ones "just following orders." I also don't think Bob Vylan is actually suggesting that every person in the IDF be killed, regardless of complicity, but calling for the downfall of the organization perpetuating genocide.
"Death to ICE" doesn't mean the same thing as "kill all ICE agents."
wrote on last edited by [email protected]So you're making the additional distinction of only people who currently actively serve in the IDF and not any previous members?
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So you're making the additional distinction of only people who currently actively serve in the IDF and not any previous members?
Missing the point. "Death to [organization]" is not synonymous with "kill all members of [organization]." Even if it did, my other point is that the entire country is not in the IDF. You've made claims and extrapolations that have nothing to do with anyone's actual beliefs. It wouldn't be genocide regardless.
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Missing the point. "Death to [organization]" is not synonymous with "kill all members of [organization]." Even if it did, my other point is that the entire country is not in the IDF. You've made claims and extrapolations that have nothing to do with anyone's actual beliefs. It wouldn't be genocide regardless.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Listen, too many in this world acts like it's impossible not to make problematic statements about the mass death or exodus of others. I do not have that problem that they seem to find unavoidable. Death to every [blank] is pretty much always a bad statement to make.
Just don't say those things and you will never be misunderstood.
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Listen, too many in this world acts like it's impossible not to make problematic statements about the mass death or exodus of others. I do not have that problem that they seem to find unavoidable. Death to every [blank] is pretty much always a bad statement to make.
Just don't say those things and you will never be misunderstood.
You continue to change the narrative. The did not say "Death to every [blank]." You said that. They said "death to the IDF." If I say "death to capitalism," I'm not saying "kill all capitalists." They're calling for the downfall of an evil organization. You are choosing to misunderstand them and put words in their mouth. You keep walking back your initial exaggeration. They clearly do not mean kill all Israeli adults. This is the same willful misinterpretation that the rest of the neoliberal media does.
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You continue to change the narrative. The did not say "Death to every [blank]." You said that. They said "death to the IDF." If I say "death to capitalism," I'm not saying "kill all capitalists." They're calling for the downfall of an evil organization. You are choosing to misunderstand them and put words in their mouth. You keep walking back your initial exaggeration. They clearly do not mean kill all Israeli adults. This is the same willful misinterpretation that the rest of the neoliberal media does.
If you say Death to Capitalism I also think you're a fucking psycho in that context, too.
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If you say Death to Capitalism I also think you're a fucking psycho in that context, too.
It was a hypothetical. Pretending those two statements are the same is willful ignorance. You're continuing to pearl-clutch over a statement that doesn't mean what you're claiming it does. You're putting words and intent I people's mouths and then making moral judgements based off your misinformation. You're making ad hominem attacks against a hypothetical. How are you still trying to justify an untenable position?
