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Thinking of switching my gaming desktop to linux. Should I?

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  • wizard_pope@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

    I just want a VM for my 10 year old cracked version of photoshop and some other apps. I never intended to game on a VM.

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    Any distro will do tbh. If youre missing something you just install it.

    But since youre used to Fedora may as well stay on that tree. You can always play around with other Desktop Environments like Plasma if you want, its what I've been doing once I get an install going.

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    • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB [email protected]

      Take Fedora, as you're already used to it. Steam handles Windows games for you. In 99% of cases they just work. Only games that do not run nowadays are games with unsupported kernel level anti cheat. Look at https://areweanticheatyet.com/ to see if your games are supported. A VM won't help you as that is usually blocked by such anti cheat as well.

      If you do have a problem with a non-multiplayer game look at https://protondb.com/.

      For games from GOG, Epic or Amazon use Heroic. For every other store you can add the launcher or just the game itself to Heroic.

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      Is heroic overtaking lutris now?

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      • malix@sopuli.xyzM [email protected]

        IMO, basically any distro with fairly modern (fairly often updated) packages should do. Apart from some build/packaging differences it's all same software anyway. The gaming side of software gets updated fairly often, so that's why you'd probably want frequently updated packages.

        "Gaming" distros are basically just selection of gaming specific packages installed as default, instead of lets say productivity apps. You can run VM's in gaming/studio/whatever distros

        FWIW, I got 5800x3D, RTX3090 - so, "close enough" same system as you. At least same series cpu/gpu. Running Arch, and gaming has been pretty easy, haven't yet found a game which didn't work - that said, some occasional game has had odd stutters (Darktide, for one. But I haven't tested in months).

        Getting things to run did get a bit more involved than "just click it". Some extra compatibility stuff (proton-ge-custom), launchers (lutris, heroic, because GoG Galaxy just refuses to work). Steam & steam-games tend to "just work", although actual native-linux games seem to have issues while running the windows-version of the same game on proton just work - WEIRD.

        But overall, stuff works, and in case of issues it now just seems to be either disabling ntsync and/or wayland for specific games and gaming away.

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        Happy cake day!

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          Bazzite is made for gaming and it's worked for me pretty flawlessly for about 6 months BUT I had a lot of issues getting it to run a VM. I'm certainly not a Linux expert but I eventually gave up trying.

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          There's a ujust script to set up virtualisation on Bazzite. ujust setup-virtualization in the terminal should get you going. Alongside the background stuff it sets up, it installs a GUI virtual machine manager.

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          • wizard_pope@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

            I will try just normal fedora and if stuff does not work I will try bazzite. VM would be used for stuff that does not work through WINE like photoshop (10 year old cracked version).

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            I'd give WINE a go before messing with a VM, I know some versions of photoshop do actually work: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=41345

            You can get cracked versions of the CC 2023 version, but if you wanna use your current version then yeah, just give it a go. Worst case you waste 30 minutes and have to install a VM anyway.

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            • wizard_pope@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

              So I was thinking of switching my desktop to linux. I have been running fedora on my laptop for 3 years and I really like it. My main question now is just what distro works best for gaming (considering my specs) and can I use VMs in any of the gaming oriented ones (mostly because I don't wanna keep dual booting).

              Edit: I have gone with Bazzite for now and it seems to be working fine. Some games don't rrally work acceptably (I expected that) so I will keep dual booting for a while.

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              I am still very happy with CachyOS. That'd be my recommendation.
              Nobara / Bazzite are good options, too, but I never tested them.

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                Is heroic overtaking lutris now?

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                For me it is. I've been using Lutris for years, but they're just stagnating. The design is all over the place, they still don't have a unified library, their native integrations break so often that I have to add my games manually anyways. And I cannot fathom why they don't adopt the same library integrations for GOG, Amazon and especially Epic as Heroic. They are much faster and have much less hassle.

                At the same time Heroic has been adding the same tools I originally missed from Lutris. Like the Wine handling and using external wrappers like Mangohud or Gamemode or your own wrappers and variables.

                Lutris' installation scripts are still often nice for figuring out a game's dependencies. I just wish they were in a git repo where people could add comments because some of the scripts are needlessly complicated.

                If someone made an itch.io command line client that Heroic could tap into it would have most of the things I could wish for.

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                • wizard_pope@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                  I already installed fedora but games just don't get stable framerates. might have to do a clean install and try again.

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                  make sure first that it isn't issue with specific games, some may require some proton flags to be set for them to behave properly. Or just newer/older proton/wine.

                  in general worth a try to switch the compatibility thingy (technical term),

                  steam, in game's properties:

                  but similar option is in lutris/heroic too.

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                  • malix@sopuli.xyzM [email protected]

                    IMO, basically any distro with fairly modern (fairly often updated) packages should do. Apart from some build/packaging differences it's all same software anyway. The gaming side of software gets updated fairly often, so that's why you'd probably want frequently updated packages.

                    "Gaming" distros are basically just selection of gaming specific packages installed as default, instead of lets say productivity apps. You can run VM's in gaming/studio/whatever distros

                    FWIW, I got 5800x3D, RTX3090 - so, "close enough" same system as you. At least same series cpu/gpu. Running Arch, and gaming has been pretty easy, haven't yet found a game which didn't work - that said, some occasional game has had odd stutters (Darktide, for one. But I haven't tested in months).

                    Getting things to run did get a bit more involved than "just click it". Some extra compatibility stuff (proton-ge-custom), launchers (lutris, heroic, because GoG Galaxy just refuses to work). Steam & steam-games tend to "just work", although actual native-linux games seem to have issues while running the windows-version of the same game on proton just work - WEIRD.

                    But overall, stuff works, and in case of issues it now just seems to be either disabling ntsync and/or wayland for specific games and gaming away.

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                    It's not all the same. A key thing you want is to get the latest graphics drivers (mesa or proprietary) as soon as possible after release. Same day or at least week. For that you probably want a rolling release like Tumbleweed, or something based on Arch, like CachyOS. I'm running Pop OS, and I still don't have the drivers needed for Doom: The Dark Ages. Seems to take like a month or so for Pop OS to update Mesa. Seriously considering trying CachyOS for this reason.

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                    • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB [email protected]

                      For me it is. I've been using Lutris for years, but they're just stagnating. The design is all over the place, they still don't have a unified library, their native integrations break so often that I have to add my games manually anyways. And I cannot fathom why they don't adopt the same library integrations for GOG, Amazon and especially Epic as Heroic. They are much faster and have much less hassle.

                      At the same time Heroic has been adding the same tools I originally missed from Lutris. Like the Wine handling and using external wrappers like Mangohud or Gamemode or your own wrappers and variables.

                      Lutris' installation scripts are still often nice for figuring out a game's dependencies. I just wish they were in a git repo where people could add comments because some of the scripts are needlessly complicated.

                      If someone made an itch.io command line client that Heroic could tap into it would have most of the things I could wish for.

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                      heroic overall seems to work better for installing games from gog, but the odd issue I have is that I seem to be always online on gog's service when I'm playing games. Do you happen to know if there's any way to set myself invisible? I don't want everyone to know how often or late I play games ๐Ÿ˜›

                      I guess technically signing out of the storefront would do that, but then I'd have to re-login to install/update games, eh

                      edit: oh derr, it dawned on me that it might be the Cyberpunk launcher which I had to login as well, which shows me online

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                      • wizard_pope@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                        So I was thinking of switching my desktop to linux. I have been running fedora on my laptop for 3 years and I really like it. My main question now is just what distro works best for gaming (considering my specs) and can I use VMs in any of the gaming oriented ones (mostly because I don't wanna keep dual booting).

                        Edit: I have gone with Bazzite for now and it seems to be working fine. Some games don't rrally work acceptably (I expected that) so I will keep dual booting for a while.

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                        I'm a simple man who use Mint on my gaming PC. No issues. Everything worked out of the box.

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                        • wizard_pope@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                          So I was thinking of switching my desktop to linux. I have been running fedora on my laptop for 3 years and I really like it. My main question now is just what distro works best for gaming (considering my specs) and can I use VMs in any of the gaming oriented ones (mostly because I don't wanna keep dual booting).

                          Edit: I have gone with Bazzite for now and it seems to be working fine. Some games don't rrally work acceptably (I expected that) so I will keep dual booting for a while.

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                          Just use Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Mint if you want a hassle free, secure, and stable Linux distro that supports everything and works out of the box.

                          Don't use those gaming centric distros like Bazzite. It's not worth it. Don't use Arch or other bleeding edge distros unless you want to keep troubleshooting your system because of problems or vulnerabilities.

                          Take it from me. I've been using Linux since 2001 and Ubuntu based distros have always been the best choice for a secure stable OS.

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                          • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP [email protected]

                            I'd give WINE a go before messing with a VM, I know some versions of photoshop do actually work: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=41345

                            You can get cracked versions of the CC 2023 version, but if you wanna use your current version then yeah, just give it a go. Worst case you waste 30 minutes and have to install a VM anyway.

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                            I mean I already know how to setup one I have 3 VM on my laptop for different OS

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                              Of you're going foss for your OS why not take a look at Krita and gimp for your image editing needs?

                              I've not tried either in years at this point hut can't hurt to check them out if you haven't already.

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                              I tried GIMP but just cannot get used to it. Heard there are some ways to make the tools and shortcuts behave like PS though just never tried it.

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                              • wizard_pope@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                                So I was thinking of switching my desktop to linux. I have been running fedora on my laptop for 3 years and I really like it. My main question now is just what distro works best for gaming (considering my specs) and can I use VMs in any of the gaming oriented ones (mostly because I don't wanna keep dual booting).

                                Edit: I have gone with Bazzite for now and it seems to be working fine. Some games don't rrally work acceptably (I expected that) so I will keep dual booting for a while.

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                                Manjaro KDE would be easier for a beginner.
                                Manjaro XFCE if you want to play RTX games and ok with tinkering WM.

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                                • malix@sopuli.xyzM [email protected]

                                  heroic overall seems to work better for installing games from gog, but the odd issue I have is that I seem to be always online on gog's service when I'm playing games. Do you happen to know if there's any way to set myself invisible? I don't want everyone to know how often or late I play games ๐Ÿ˜›

                                  I guess technically signing out of the storefront would do that, but then I'd have to re-login to install/update games, eh

                                  edit: oh derr, it dawned on me that it might be the Cyberpunk launcher which I had to login as well, which shows me online

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                                  Luckily you can just skip the Cyberpunk launcher. Just configure Heroic to use the normal exe. That's how I play the Steam version so that I can play when my son is playing on his PC as well.

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                                    I think there's some hidden complexity with immutable distros that most people ignore, I also had issues getting podman/docker to run properly there IIRC but dunno if its the same thing

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                                    I saw "gaming focused distro" and immediately jumped into it without any research but that's just the way I do things. Sometimes I work my way backwards and develop at least some understanding. I believe it's commonly referred to as a learning disorder. Don't regret it though.

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                                    • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP [email protected]

                                      There's a ujust script to set up virtualisation on Bazzite. ujust setup-virtualization in the terminal should get you going. Alongside the background stuff it sets up, it installs a GUI virtual machine manager.

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                                      It's all a blur now but I know I did something with ujust. I'll try it again to make sure, thank you for the info.

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                                      • wizard_pope@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                                        I mean I already know how to setup one I have 3 VM on my laptop for different OS

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                                        Yeah that's fair, the only reason I suggested WINE still is VMs are a fair resource hog but whatever works for you friend ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                        • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB [email protected]

                                          Luckily you can just skip the Cyberpunk launcher. Just configure Heroic to use the normal exe. That's how I play the Steam version so that I can play when my son is playing on his PC as well.

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                                          Yea I have done that, but logging into the launcher (and it apparently keeps it logged in as well) unlocks in-game items - they are entirely non-essential, but... you know, hoarding.

                                          I haven't tested yet if that's even the thing which is showing me in-game to my friends. I was kinda amazed to hear they saw me playing cyberpunk to the early morning hours ๐Ÿ˜„

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