Scotland streets fill with protestors as Trump arrives to play golf
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Yeah people within a country will talk raw numbers, but it's a fucking stupid way to compare mobilisation between countries. 100000 in the Scottish media looks a lot more impressive than 5m on an American news station. At this point I'm not sure wether your trolling or huffing solvents.
so now we're talking about volume over mobilization.
so 5 million over 2100 cities isn't impressive enough?
keep moving those goal posts troll.
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the original comment didn't mention anything about proportion or per capita. you just assumed that's what they meant because you can't argue numbers after I presented the real numbers.
comment figuratively tried to compare apples to apples, so I gave fair comparison with context.
I guess after the protests I'll have to come back and show you even by per capita Scotland still failed to bolster the support we "weak Americans" gathered.
I guess you prefer dunking on people online to doing anything about your fascist leaders and neighbours.
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Let's do per capita then:
"hundreds of protesters" (we'll round up to 1000) of 5.5 million => 0.018%
5 million of 347 million => 1.4%
I assume the original comment was a joke but glad you to get to feel so high and mighty about it.
I’m really not sure what you’re trying to prove.
In one country 0.018% rocks up at a moment’s notice for a guy they could care less about and has no real effect on their lives, isn’t deporting their families or screwing them out of medicare. He’s not disrespecting their vets or pulling them off food stamps. He’s coming over to golf, that’s the extent of the relation.
They just don’t like him and will make some time on whatever Sunday he rocks up to tell him that.
Compare that to to 1.4% (barely 100x more) protesting after years of crimes, n and proud admissions of rape, child molestation, cheating at 3 elections, being illegitimate installed as president right now, impeachments, thousands of illegal deportations of fellow citizens or countrymen, complete bonkers enrichment with crypto scams, gross incompetence on lots of levels, including militarily and economically, embroiled in scandal after scandal
So after MONTHS of organising, there were 2 protests which had over 1% of the population out on the streets. And now… nothing. Not even a general strike. Because the free markets are so free, you freely would like to express your freedom of expression if you only were actually free.
Have a look at when that magical 1% threshold was breached in other countries historically and for what reasons.
And while you’re there, look at what happened after. Typically when you have 1% protests, they are met with action from the goverment. Promises and changes are made to appease the protesters. Back in the USA, they went home, and stayed home. Deportations continued afterwards. And then a bill was signed to make ICE the new gestapo and become the biggest domestic paramilitary organisation in the world.
Not sure why anyone would ever try to claim “Americans are great protesters, and love civil action”.
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I’m really not sure what you’re trying to prove.
In one country 0.018% rocks up at a moment’s notice for a guy they could care less about and has no real effect on their lives, isn’t deporting their families or screwing them out of medicare. He’s not disrespecting their vets or pulling them off food stamps. He’s coming over to golf, that’s the extent of the relation.
They just don’t like him and will make some time on whatever Sunday he rocks up to tell him that.
Compare that to to 1.4% (barely 100x more) protesting after years of crimes, n and proud admissions of rape, child molestation, cheating at 3 elections, being illegitimate installed as president right now, impeachments, thousands of illegal deportations of fellow citizens or countrymen, complete bonkers enrichment with crypto scams, gross incompetence on lots of levels, including militarily and economically, embroiled in scandal after scandal
So after MONTHS of organising, there were 2 protests which had over 1% of the population out on the streets. And now… nothing. Not even a general strike. Because the free markets are so free, you freely would like to express your freedom of expression if you only were actually free.
Have a look at when that magical 1% threshold was breached in other countries historically and for what reasons.
And while you’re there, look at what happened after. Typically when you have 1% protests, they are met with action from the goverment. Promises and changes are made to appease the protesters. Back in the USA, they went home, and stayed home. Deportations continued afterwards. And then a bill was signed to make ICE the new gestapo and become the biggest domestic paramilitary organisation in the world.
Not sure why anyone would ever try to claim “Americans are great protesters, and love civil action”.
"Barely 100x more."
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"Barely 100x more."
Sorry to hear your american ass couldn’t read all of my response. I’ll try to be briefer next time.
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it was a tongue in cheek reference to how the French initially refused to get involved in the American revolutionary war until they directly benefited from it.
and how they would allow their own people to starve while the aristocracy overindulged.
I also thought it was particularly indignant for someone in another country to tell me, an American, what I should sacrifice and how I should rebel when they don't know the first thing about what my country is going through. they don't live here, they don't know what every day is like. they don't understand the risks.
I think it's a pretty funny that Europeans praise unity and solidarity and then attack Americans just because they're Americans. I used to think that Europe was light years ahead of us, but now I'm thinking you're just as fractured and broken as us.
I wonder who will come to your aid when Russia starts expanding? surely they won't expect the fascist loving all knowing piece of shit Americans to help.
The French monarchy refused to get involved until it benefited him. Which has fuck all to do with any modern Frenchman's to opinions.
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Sorry to hear your american ass couldn’t read all of my response. I’ll try to be briefer next time.
I'm just making fun of your dumb statement, not trying to address anything else.
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The French monarchy refused to get involved until it benefited him. Which has fuck all to do with any modern Frenchman's to opinions.
so history can't form culture. cool.
so those hundreds of years of art culture spurned on from the aristocracy don't mean anything to the modern day French?
I'll keep that in mind next time someone wants to tell me about the Louvre.
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Why no throw eggs and bricks ? the easiest way.
US won't fight for it self, let alone the politic spam about Trump.Tacos. Throw fucking tacos.
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so history can't form culture. cool.
so those hundreds of years of art culture spurned on from the aristocracy don't mean anything to the modern day French?
I'll keep that in mind next time someone wants to tell me about the Louvre.
Lol. The fuck are talking about?
The diplomatic decisions of a monarch are not reflective of even his subjects at the time, let alone create lasting culture, especially not when that monarch was literally overthrown and executed.
And trying to pull that on someone hundreds of years and multiple governments separated from the offending king when Trump is literally the elected president right now is just abject nonsense.
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Protests are measured in raw numbers because if you said 1.4% of the population of the usa gave enough of a fuck to turn up, it would show just how little you people care about What's happening in your country. And if you compare that to the protests Georgians had about the Russification of their government, they had raw numbers of around 169000 at the low end, but that's over 4% of their population. So yeah if you want your passive population to seem politically engaged, by all means use the raw numbers, but nobody's impressed when the survival of your country is on the line and only 1.4% can be bothered showing up.
just an update for you since it's so important that you're goal posts are moved. multiple sources claim hundreds of protestors showed up in Edinburgh. I'll (generously) top it out at 1000 protestors nationwide.
Scotland
- population 5,500,000
- trump golf protest 1000
- per capita 0.00018
in comparison to the US.
- population 347,411,739
- no kings 5,000,000
- per capita 0.014
but hey, it's not a competition.
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You stop being a fucking moron. Of course it's a valid measure of public opinion and engagement. The point is to display force relative to the size of the entity being protested. Take the Serbian or Georgian protests. A whole lot more impressive. If you can't see that no one can help you.
just an update for you since it's so important that you're goal posts are moved. multiple sources claim hundreds of protestors showed up in Edinburgh. I'll (generously) top it out at 1000 protestors nationwide.
Scotland
- population 5,500,000
- trump golf protest 1000
- per capita 0.00018
in comparison to the US.
- population 347,411,739
- no kings 5,000,000
- per capita 0.014
but hey, it's not a competition.
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An American who doesn't understand the concept of per capita. That is certainly new. /s
just an update for you since it's so important that you're goal posts are moved. multiple sources claim hundreds of protestors showed up in Edinburgh. I'll (generously) top it out at 1000 protestors nationwide.
Scotland
- population 5,500,000
- trump golf protest 1000
- per capita 0.00018
in comparison to the US.
- population 347,411,739
- no kings 5,000,000
- per capita 0.014
but hey, it's not a competition.
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I guess you prefer dunking on people online to doing anything about your fascist leaders and neighbours.
just an update for you since it's so important that you're goal posts are moved. multiple sources claim hundreds of protestors showed up in Edinburgh. I'll (generously) top it out at 1000 protestors nationwide.
Scotland
- population 5,500,000
- trump golf protest 1000
- per capita 0.00018
in comparison to the US.
- population 347,411,739
- no kings 5,000,000
- per capita 0.014
but hey, it's not a competition.
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Tacos. Throw fucking tacos.
Eggs and bricks with tacos painted on them. No reason to waste any tasty tacos!
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just an update for you since it's so important that you're goal posts are moved. multiple sources claim hundreds of protestors showed up in Edinburgh. I'll (generously) top it out at 1000 protestors nationwide.
Scotland
- population 5,500,000
- trump golf protest 1000
- per capita 0.00018
in comparison to the US.
- population 347,411,739
- no kings 5,000,000
- per capita 0.014
but hey, it's not a competition.
You realise that Donald kiddie fiddler Trump isn't the president of Scotland right? He's objectively your fucking problem. You ought to be grateful for any foreign countries who want to help out. I never said there were proportionally more people protesting in Scotland.
If you look back at the comments, I've only ever argued with your position that any country that doesn't field 5M protesters isn't outperforming the states. Which, by the way, is still some grade A stupidity. I've no fucking idea how many people showed up, but as previously mentioned trump is definitely more of a problem for the USA than anyone else so I genuinely wouldn't expect that many to show up.
However if the first minister of Scotland did even half the shit trump's done, Edinburgh would fucking burn with the riots.
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Can't, they put up a massive fence out to a distance of like half a mile and then surrounded it with thousands of cops, no way I can throw eggs that far which is a shame because it's actually in reasonable commute distance.
If only there were small affordable flying objects, often with four props.
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what's more impressive for a protest:
- 100% of a national population
- 5 million from a national population
Jesus the next thing you're going to tell me is that a pound of feathers is less than a pound of gold.
So you do admit it then and you're just being a stupid c** for no reason. Great use of your time. Enjoy life
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just an update for you since it's so important that you're goal posts are moved. multiple sources claim hundreds of protestors showed up in Edinburgh. I'll (generously) top it out at 1000 protestors nationwide.
Scotland
- population 5,500,000
- trump golf protest 1000
- per capita 0.00018
in comparison to the US.
- population 347,411,739
- no kings 5,000,000
- per capita 0.014
but hey, it's not a competition.
When did I say otherwise? Of course you're not gonna get mass protests in Scotland because a corrupted American rapist goes there surroundes by cops.
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When did I say otherwise? Of course you're not gonna get mass protests in Scotland because a corrupted American rapist goes there surroundes by cops.
You stop being a fucking moron. Of course it's a valid measure of public opinion and engagement. The point is to display force relative to the size of the entity being protested. Take the Serbian or Georgian protests. A whole lot more impressive. If you can't see that no one can help you.
are you even trying? you're just moving those goal posts now. they're halfway across the parking lot now.
I don't know what I expected out of you. I guess silence would have been nice. I don't even expect a "you were right". I mean it'd be nice, but I know your ego and pride won't allow that to happen.
I guess just go crawl back under your bridge and block me?
either way, get wrecked dude.
