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Claims "high IQ", holds right wing views.
God that prickly sounds insufferable.
To be fair, debate classes often involve arguing for positions you're personally opposed to.
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Mensa is "the high IQ society". Take that how you will, membership is mostly used for bragging rights and/or being pretentious.
The impression I get is that it was more relevant before the internet. Like, you'd be living in bumfuck Nebraska and take an IQ test in high school to see if you should be a trucker or farmer, and then a couple weeks later you get a letter asking if you wanna be part of a club of smart people who have a magazine and meet every once in a while.
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Get scammed? I pay the yearly couple of euros mainly for access to the discussion groups. Sometimes I scroll and notice the dumbest shit and every single time it's a post from a non-mensa group dirtying up my feed. There really is a noticable difference.
So what types of discussions do you get in places where us dumb dumbs aren't allowed?
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as someone who qualifies for mensa but like, i ain't paying a subscription fee to be in the smart people club, that sounds really dumb (and also IQ testing is sketchy at best to begin with)
yes, i always appreciate a big booty, on any ethnicity or gender, so latinas are indeed included
I took their online test out of curiosity and it said I was qualified to join. It was interesting to figure out the mechanism of it though.
From what I gathered, it seems what they’re really measuring is your capacity for pattern recognition and association or something along those lines.
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To be fair, debate classes often involve arguing for positions you're personally opposed to.
I know, but this wasn't the case
my tactic was to get him emotionally flustered on his stance, which he vehemently believed in, and argue logical arguments regardless of their logical context to his stance.
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To be fair, debate classes often involve arguing for positions you're personally opposed to.
it wasn't a debate class. the debates were merely a vessel to convey the logical process. we took time to dissect each of the arguments, which were written before hand and shared with the class. just as the "debate" took place. the rules were pretty simple
- teams were identified early, so you knew who you were debating
- topics were identified at the same time.
- write as many arguments("ammo") as you can think of on one sheet of paper(front and back)
- use one class period to work through the logical arguments to ensure they are logically sound, can use the aid of the teacher
- you can only use your "ammo" and cannot deviate from it or make new ones up on the spot
- if you run out of "ammo" or cannot use the "ammo" you have you must concede
so before the debate I already knew the topic and person I was going against. I already profiled him and knew if I overwhelmed him there was no way I'd lose. my arguments weren't factually backed, but logically sound. I don't know how many arguments I wrote, but it was probably at least 50. all with varying degrees of potential that could be used against anything he could throw at me. god, Jesus, Satan, whores, sluts, incest, rape. all of it was there.
he brought a knife to a gun fight and I beat the shit out of him with a baseball bat.
the teacher actually approached me after the semester and commented that I seemed to have a deep understanding of logical thought and I should probably pursue a career in software or become a paralegal. it was his last semester teaching there and I'd like to think I made it memorable
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I wish I could remember the story but there was a guy that joined Mensa so he could con people. It worked too which rather seems to suggest that the entry requirements are not all that stringent.
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I took their online test out of curiosity and it said I was qualified to join. It was interesting to figure out the mechanism of it though.
From what I gathered, it seems what they’re really measuring is your capacity for pattern recognition and association or something along those lines.
Isn't this what most of IQ tests do? I sometimes take them because it's fun to solve the pattern tasks but I feel like it's nearly impossible to test the really interesting things like transfer and problem solving capabilities in a reliable way at least in this kind of way.
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So, do they?
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I wish I could remember the story but there was a guy that joined Mensa so he could con people. It worked too which rather seems to suggest that the entry requirements are not all that stringent.
Or IQ is a useless measure
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It's an organization or club or something where the criteria for joining is having an IQ above whatever their minimum is. (Like 120 or something maybe?)
98th percentile which should mean 130 but tests differ so who knows really
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Progressive here.
I'm a boobs guy and never have I dated outside my ethnic group
I think of myself as a progressive and I like both. But my country is like 99% white so I don't get to play outside my group either
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So what types of discussions do you get in places where us dumb dumbs aren't allowed?
Imagine stack overflow on steroids.
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Mensa is "the high IQ society". Take that how you will, membership is mostly used for bragging rights and/or being pretentious.
It's like anything if you are of the right social class being members of the right clubs can open certain doors for you. Political parties like to hear that you are in Mensa.
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Or IQ is a useless measure
wrote last edited by [email protected]And over-identifying woth it is something arrogant shit heads who are easy to con do.
Unlike me. I'm better than that.
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Or IQ is a useless measure
Or computational intelligence isn't the same thing as skepticism
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Or computational intelligence isn't the same thing as skepticism
... Or wisdom.
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I wish I could remember the story but there was a guy that joined Mensa so he could con people. It worked too which rather seems to suggest that the entry requirements are not all that stringent.
I think their entry requirements are doing exactly what they're supposed to.
The problem is that intelligence, even if we could measure it correctly, doesn't and shouldn't imply what a person knows, nor their experiences and the wisdom that they carry.
Someone can be learned with a low IQ. Someone can be wise and similarly low IQ. In the same way, someone with a high IQ can be unwise.
The problem with having only one individual metric for a group which believes themselves to compose the smartest people, is that they're arrogant. I know plenty of people who are so extremely intelligent that I am certain that they could be a part of Mensa; yet, they are not. When they looked into it, they decided it would be unwise to become a member, given the requirements and the attitudes of, and about, the group.
Hell, there's a decent chance I could get in. I've never tried and I don't care to, for all the same reasons, so I would never know if I could "make it" or not.
Their arrogance and hubris is their undoing.
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If you happened to have an unusually high IQ, why you would you choose to join Mensa, or be a moderator on Reddit for that matter?
The smartest thing you can do is obfuscate your level of intelligence, not brag about it. That's just how you end up doing more work and getting blamed by everyone around you.
Obfuscate your intelligence? Being a reddit mod sounds like it's part of the plan, then.
