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    You don’t hate mondays you hate capitalism

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    It has nothing to do with capitalism, and everything to do with having to do stuff you don't always want to do. Regardless of the type of society you live it, even if you were an offgrid self sufficient hermit, you'd probably still dislike doing plenty of stuff that needs doing to live and complain about that. As long as you live there is always a hamster wheel that turns, and getting off is terminal.

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      It has nothing to do with capitalism, and everything to do with having to do stuff you don't always want to do. Regardless of the type of society you live it, even if you were an offgrid self sufficient hermit, you'd probably still dislike doing plenty of stuff that needs doing to live and complain about that. As long as you live there is always a hamster wheel that turns, and getting off is terminal.

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      Yeah but if you're a hermit you can fuck off if you want to

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        Yeah but if you're a hermit you can fuck off if you want to

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        It will only postpone the stuff you fuck off from for a short time... It always comes back

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          It has nothing to do with capitalism, and everything to do with having to do stuff you don't always want to do. Regardless of the type of society you live it, even if you were an offgrid self sufficient hermit, you'd probably still dislike doing plenty of stuff that needs doing to live and complain about that. As long as you live there is always a hamster wheel that turns, and getting off is terminal.

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          Doing something you don’t like for yourself feels quite different from doing it for someone else, though.

          Most people who do something they don’t like for a living does that thing purely because it is the thing that makes some shareholder more money. All (or most of) the meaning has been sucked out, and that definitely has something to do with capitalism.

          Of course we’ll probably never get to the point where everyone loves every day of their job, but injecting some value (that isn’t purely monetary) back into work would do wonders, IMO.

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            It has nothing to do with capitalism, and everything to do with having to do stuff you don't always want to do. Regardless of the type of society you live it, even if you were an offgrid self sufficient hermit, you'd probably still dislike doing plenty of stuff that needs doing to live and complain about that. As long as you live there is always a hamster wheel that turns, and getting off is terminal.

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            I suspect drudgery is a symptom of modern societies and not a natural state. Imagine being part of a small tribe of nomadic people 500 years ago. When the hunters return to camp with an elk and it's time for you to help tan the hide or what not, are you really going to feel put out because it interrupted the game you were playing with beads and sticks? I doubt that.

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              Doing something you don’t like for yourself feels quite different from doing it for someone else, though.

              Most people who do something they don’t like for a living does that thing purely because it is the thing that makes some shareholder more money. All (or most of) the meaning has been sucked out, and that definitely has something to do with capitalism.

              Of course we’ll probably never get to the point where everyone loves every day of their job, but injecting some value (that isn’t purely monetary) back into work would do wonders, IMO.

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              Doing something you don’t like for yourself feels quite different from doing it for someone else, though.

              Eh, not really IMO...I hate doing maintenance on the house, yard work, cleaning etc. just as much as the days I don't want to go to work, perhaps even more actually.

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                I suspect drudgery is a symptom of modern societies and not a natural state. Imagine being part of a small tribe of nomadic people 500 years ago. When the hunters return to camp with an elk and it's time for you to help tan the hide or what not, are you really going to feel put out because it interrupted the game you were playing with beads and sticks? I doubt that.

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                So in a world where there is little to nothing to spend leisure time on, working is not as bad.

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                  Doing something you don’t like for yourself feels quite different from doing it for someone else, though.

                  Eh, not really IMO...I hate doing maintenance on the house, yard work, cleaning etc. just as much as the days I don't want to go to work, perhaps even more actually.

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                  Well, that sucks 😅 Sounds like you should live in an apartment/condo! Still won’t escape the cleaning, though..

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                    Well, that sucks 😅 Sounds like you should live in an apartment/condo! Still won’t escape the cleaning, though..

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                    Sounds like you should live in an apartment/condo

                    Oh god no, I have done that and that sucks ass too. Sure no maintenance, but then there's people everywhere around you.

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                      You don’t hate mondays you hate capitalism

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                      I'd still hate going to work on monday under any other system since it's still work

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                        So in a world where there is little to nothing to spend leisure time on, working is not as bad.

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                        Yeah, I think that about sums it up.

                        But also the work itself is never the worst kind of work. Everything that must be done as a matter of survival in a society like that is stuff that some people do as hobbies in a society like ours. It probably helps that there is no one thing that anyone has to do all day every day.

                        Also their leisure time was probably much more fulfilling. They sang instead of listening to Spotify, told each other stories instead of watching movies, played sports instead of watching professionals do it, etc.

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                          Yeah, I think that about sums it up.

                          But also the work itself is never the worst kind of work. Everything that must be done as a matter of survival in a society like that is stuff that some people do as hobbies in a society like ours. It probably helps that there is no one thing that anyone has to do all day every day.

                          Also their leisure time was probably much more fulfilling. They sang instead of listening to Spotify, told each other stories instead of watching movies, played sports instead of watching professionals do it, etc.

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                          But these are not issues by a capitalistic society, these issues exist under any system in a modern world with options beyond bare survival.

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                            That's the dang truth.

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                              I'd still hate going to work on monday under any other system since it's still work

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                              What if we abolish work? Machines do the majority of labor, and the rest is 100% volunteers (not "work").

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                                What if we abolish work? Machines do the majority of labor, and the rest is 100% volunteers (not "work").

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                                Do I have to wake up on Monday for it?

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