Online ‘Pedophile Hunters’ Are Growing More Violent — and Going Viral: With the rise of loosely moderated social media platforms, a fringe vigilante movement is experiencing a dangerous evolution.
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It's not weirdly used. Society always determines what is appropriate. We've decided, as a society, that humans cannot consent until 18. And any sex without consent is rape.
That said, what is weird is that we conflate pedo and child rapist. You're describing child rapists.
We’ve decided, as a society, that humans cannot consent until 18.
Older criminal laws were based on that idea, usually called "statutory rape". Modern laws about sexual abuse of children usually ignore the concept of consent entirely to allow for more nuance.
One example of nuance is exceptions for people close in age so that non-abusive relationships between teenagers don't suddenly become crimes when someone has a birthday. Another is that consent is often a factor in the severity of the penalty.
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It's not weirdly used. Society always determines what is appropriate. We've decided, as a society, that humans cannot consent until 18. And any sex without consent is rape.
That said, what is weird is that we conflate pedo and child rapist. You're describing child rapists.
Your society might have in mine a 14 year old can consent and it wouldn't be considered rape in that case, still a crime though.
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Well, I get you are trying to state that MAGA people are pedofiles, and I am not here to stop you from that. But you also assume they catch actual pedofiles. However, there are cases where they have contacted people with an intellectual disability, and then you cannot be really sure the person really is sexually in to children, since with enough pushing you can get such persons to agree to a meeting anyway... just because you pushed. Regardless of how awful the crime is, we cannot accept vigilantes.
I remember looking up the people To Catch A Predator worked with and reading some of their chat logs. The decoy was always very upfront in giving an age unambiguously below the age of consent in their jurisdiction, and never initiated conversation about sex or suggested meeting in person.
Of course, the decoy would always agree to do so if the offender asked, but the criminal conduct was unambiguously criminal, and unambiguously the offender's idea. What we see in this article appears to abandon that sort of rigor to manufacture more opportunities to confront someone.
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While pedophile hunters seem barbaric to me, I don't have kids.
I do have a dog, and dog hunter hunters, as in "people hunting dog hunters", seem all right for me.
Cowards really like to inflict pain on creatures not well enough protected by the law. So hunting them is maybe good for the society.
So deontology and principles and morals only matter when they are challenged by one's own impulses. Innocent until proven guilty in the court of law.
I think you can dislike pedophiles and even want to see them punished, yet still recognize that some asshole doing it to get revenue from their YouTube channel is not the right solution.
Personally, I'm of the opinion that most crime is the result of either poverty or neurological flaws, and torture is not the best solution to either problem.
People need to be kept safe, and the criminal justice system is ostensibly the mechanism we've decided to use for that.
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It's not weirdly used. Society always determines what is appropriate. We've decided, as a society, that humans cannot consent until 18. And any sex without consent is rape.
That said, what is weird is that we conflate pedo and child rapist. You're describing child rapists.
Somebody should tell society their laws need to catch up with that decision!
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Is that really the only problem you see with people taking justice into their own hands? Less oversight?
A person does not need to point out all problems when pointing out one problem.
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I remember looking up the people To Catch A Predator worked with and reading some of their chat logs. The decoy was always very upfront in giving an age unambiguously below the age of consent in their jurisdiction, and never initiated conversation about sex or suggested meeting in person.
Of course, the decoy would always agree to do so if the offender asked, but the criminal conduct was unambiguously criminal, and unambiguously the offender's idea. What we see in this article appears to abandon that sort of rigor to manufacture more opportunities to confront someone.
What we see in this article appears to abandon that sort of rigor to manufacture more opportunities to confront someone.
Aka entrapment.
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Well, I get you are trying to state that MAGA people are pedofiles, and I am not here to stop you from that. But you also assume they catch actual pedofiles. However, there are cases where they have contacted people with an intellectual disability, and then you cannot be really sure the person really is sexually in to children, since with enough pushing you can get such persons to agree to a meeting anyway... just because you pushed. Regardless of how awful the crime is, we cannot accept vigilantes.
Regardless of how awful the crime is, we cannot accept vigilantes.
Speak for yourself.
MAGA would deport you for having the wrong color skin regardless of your citizenship. I’m find with ruining their lives regardless of any crimes committed. This wouldn’t have been the case a couple years ago- but things have changed.
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The word pedophile is so weirdly used. If an older man or lady meets a 16 year old.. their technically not one, but in this day of age.. they would be consider one to society..but they would be consider a Sex Offender. Depending on Level 1 or 2.. all depends on what they did and if their state (or Federal) will think they will re-offend or not. Most Level 1’s do not.
Found the Libertarian
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I’m going to be honest, I’m suspicious of every single ‘pedophile hunter’. They are going after a demographic that people will not rush to defend, even if innocent.
Also, these ‘hunters’ probably have something shady going on in their own lives, and this is some form of projection that they also profit off of.
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Let’s be real- we know who they’re catching. I’m fine with this. Keep on doing whatever to MAGA trash.
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Is this an angelfire website in the 90's? Who the hell though a background amalgamation of moving images was the best way to present printed media?
I just can't with these websites anymore. I find it almost impossible to read when there's a embedded video as it is.
Trying to read the text with the insane collage of actively playing videos made me feel motion sickness
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Let’s be real- we know who they’re catching. I’m fine with this. Keep on doing whatever to MAGA trash.
This is what i'm imagining: Hey and welcome to the kill people yt channel! Like and subscribe. Hey chat, we need money for a new camera. Anyone know any pedos we can go and kill? Sounds like chat doesn't like this whodrankarnoldpalmer. Sounds like a sus guy. If we reach our donation we will drag him behind our car for you guys. We will be puting this guys fingers on ebay btw, so look out for that.
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Have they tried looking in churches and the Republican party?
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The problem is what if they mistake somebody for the wrong person? That's enough to destroy an innocent persons life.
That's not the only problem. They're making content, so finding "the right person" will inevitably be less important than finding a person. Can't fall out of the Almighty Algorithm's favor, amirite?
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This is what i'm imagining: Hey and welcome to the kill people yt channel! Like and subscribe. Hey chat, we need money for a new camera. Anyone know any pedos we can go and kill? Sounds like chat doesn't like this whodrankarnoldpalmer. Sounds like a sus guy. If we reach our donation we will drag him behind our car for you guys. We will be puting this guys fingers on ebay btw, so look out for that.
Hang on- do you think this is not EXACTLY what will be coming from the alt-right sooner than later? I mean, for your sake, I hope you’re right- I don’t live in the states- I live in a developed country where I’m somewhat more insulated from this garbage. Feel free to wait around and see how it shakes out, I guess.
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Vigilantes taking the law into their own hands with violence is always a sign of a healthy society. It also never leads to tragedy.
I'm completely with you on this, and I'm surprised your comment is so highly voted because this community is quick to endorse vigilantism. Just the other day I was scrolling through a thread full of comments about how a guy who was arrested should have been more brutally assaulted by an angry mob.
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Pedophile hunting is among several vigilante movements in the United States. Groups in the South try to catch alleged drug smugglers at the border; others monitor local crime. The new wave of pedophile hunters stands out for adopting the social media influencer model, using real-life violence to build a following online.
This is about clout chasing and being violent monsters
They can deflect doubt because they are hunting pedophiles.
"You wouldn't defend a pedophile now, would you?" - clout chasing violence monger
