Norwegian tourist claims he was 'strip searched' before being denied entry to US over JD Vance meme on phone
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Not one word of this is true.
Come on. I know a debate lord when I see one. Game recognizes game. The problem with being a debate lord is that there's always a bigger debate lord than you
.Maybe don't make jokes
Socialism is when no jokes /s
...under a warning about peoples safety as a person who is partly responsible for aforementioned lack of safety.
Oh my fucking God no I am not partly responsible for the lack of safety that the US government imposes on its citizens. The US GOVERNMENT is causally responsible, and the fault lies with the people who run the system and the capitalists who are responsible for it. The State imposes this reality on me and almost everyone else here. We NEVER had a democracy, even de jure! The United States is a "democratic" republic! And every step of the way, I have expressed my disgust for this evil country and its trajectory!
Please if you take home only one message, it is this: States IMPOSE their will upon the working class.
And again, what I said did not even go against your warning. It didn't even diminish the engagement your warning got. It probably got a few people more people to read it because there was an actual discussion below it.
And if you thought what I said was insensitive, you could have clearly stated so. But again... this is my reality too, that I'm fucking stuck in this sick fucking hellhole. I feel like I have a right to make jokes at my own expense.
The delivery of information doesn't change whether it is correct or not.
Right, that's why I put it in a separate part of the comment separated by a line. But also... that's not how humans operate? If you want people to listen to you, in general you can't be a jerk about it. That's something you'll learn as you unlearn debate lord habits.
I have not been a jerk to basically everyone who I have interacted with, but I would love to see you waste your time by providing a chart that demonstrates me being an unwarranted jerk to the majority of people over 1.23k comments and 20 posts.
I mean "being a jerk" is an opinion, so it's not something you can really do reliable mathematics about, i.e. a chart would be equivalent to what I have already given you in text form. A chart actually would have been faster to make, i.e. it would be less of a waste of time.
More precisely: you've been being a jerk to people on Lemmy with the account I'm replying to. I don't think you're necessarily a jerk anywhere else. This isn't a personal attack. I'm commenting on your behavior.
This shouldn't be too hard since you are already balls deep in my account. I expect it by the end of the week or your fired.
Nah I'm not that deep in your profile lol, and I'm not even good at reading people. Just a week or two to get a sense of where you're coming from.
I also clearly stated why I proceeded the way I did.
I agree to disagree.
You didn't have to keep going but you did.
Yup. I'm not a debate lord. I'm a debate monster
.I am responsible for my end, and you yours. It is on you just as much as me that we are here.
Hell yeah I'm riding this train wherever it goesEdit: Actually I'm not gonna respond to any responses to the previous two responses because I've made my points and the rational side of me is realizing that this is getting a bit excessive. Not that I can't, but because I'm seeing myself get back into those debate lord behaviors I loathe so much.
.So genuinely: beyond this point, I can agree to disagree with you, I apologize for not dropping it earlier, and have a nice rest of your week.
Honestly, the fact that you are trying to pretend I didn't tell you my background in an attempt to prove whatever point you are trying to make about me is humourous.
Enjoy the last word, and I highly recommend you educate yourself on my country before ever talking shit again.
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Honestly, the fact that you are trying to pretend I didn't tell you my background in an attempt to prove whatever point you are trying to make about me is humourous.
Enjoy the last word, and I highly recommend you educate yourself on my country before ever talking shit again.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Honestly, the fact that you are trying to pretend I didn't tell you my background in an attempt to prove whatever point you are trying to make about me is humourous.
You told me that you're Greek-Canadian, right? I genuinely forgot that you told me, sorry. Being Greek didn't register in my
brain as a visible minority group, but it absolutely is. I was also leaving open the possiblity of belonging to any other minority identities you hadn't previously talked about without assuming cisheteronormative "defaults".whatever point you are trying to make about me is humourous
I wanted to move on with the discussion as if you could have been, but did not definitively tell me, that you were from a group which is a minority in Canada. Which you did and I acknowledge that now, and I simply forgot.
I stand by the rest of what I said. I'm gonna leave it here because this is already verging on unhealthy.
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If I just delete all social media apps from my phone and pretend I don't have any social media accounts would these facist dumb fucks even know or would that seem suspicious?, I could just buy an extra phone but that seems a bit unnecessary
that might be sus as well... better keep an alternative one that you don't use and make sure the account is gets sufficiently old and then you just say that you just lurk
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You aren't trapped though! Come to Canada!
And this is how we achieved a population greater than what our housing can support. Unless you’re ready to fork over 1200-2k a month for a 1 bedroom & 1 bathroom then I would advise against this.
wrote last edited by [email protected]you can support. it's just your politicians holding back the access to land for new development to satisfy some voters and backers that make a lot of money through property price increases. if there was really any will to solve the problem politicians would have relaxed land use regulations
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that might be sus as well... better keep an alternative one that you don't use and make sure the account is gets sufficiently old and then you just say that you just lurk
What a fucking shit hole this country has become that I have to jump through all these hoops just to travel, it wasn't this draconic even after 9/11 but racist losers had to own the libs I guess
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"Quick! He might be hiding more memes in his ass!" Like what?
that's where I store all my best shitposts
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As an American, seconded.
I'm trapped here, don't YOU risk being kidnapped and trapped here or sent somewhere worse just because you wanted to see the Grand Canyon.
Do they really want me to be trapped?
might go to El Salvador, but trapped?I'm brown with a thick beard, so I'm used to being "naturally suspicious and prone to explosion" whenever I am within a 5 km distance of an airport. Yet US airports would scare the shit out of me
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JD Vance only eats the cat food part of lucky charms pass it on.
So Cheerios?
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Norwegians have this fanciful notion that all European and north American countries are essentially the same and that nothing is as bad as it's made out to be by those hysterical foreigners. This requires some degree of cognitive dissonance because they also feel like there is no country as good as Norway and everyone must really want to be Norwegian.
So he probably assumed it wasn't nearly as bad over there as people are saying and if he was to get into difficulty he could just say he's Norwegian and people would just let him off because everyone loves Norwegians. Also he's 21 so not terribly smart yet.
Not to mention that he's probably never been in a situation where a border control person takes your phone.
they also feel like there is no country as good as Norway and everyone must really want to be Norwegian.
I haven’t experienced that in the many years I’ve lived here. It is a humble group of people, seems to me. They also have tons of love for the other Scandinavian countries. You paint a picture of stuck up nationalists, and that’s pretty far from the truth.
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Do they really want me to be trapped?
might go to El Salvador, but trapped?I'm brown with a thick beard, so I'm used to being "naturally suspicious and prone to explosion" whenever I am within a 5 km distance of an airport. Yet US airports would scare the shit out of me
Well yeah, if you're trapped in one of our many prisons, you get to look forward to slave labor! Slavery is perfectly legal and constitutional, as per the 13th amendment.
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“They threatened me with a minimum fine of $5,000 or five years in prison if I refused to provide the password to my phone.”
Jesus Christ. Reminds me of Eastern Europe in the early 90s.
Some western European countries already do the same thing nowadays. It goes against constitutional laws where you can remain silent and where you can't be forced to help with your own conviction.
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Do they really want me to be trapped?
might go to El Salvador, but trapped?I'm brown with a thick beard, so I'm used to being "naturally suspicious and prone to explosion" whenever I am within a 5 km distance of an airport. Yet US airports would scare the shit out of me
Brown like south Italians?
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they also feel like there is no country as good as Norway and everyone must really want to be Norwegian.
I haven’t experienced that in the many years I’ve lived here. It is a humble group of people, seems to me. They also have tons of love for the other Scandinavian countries. You paint a picture of stuck up nationalists, and that’s pretty far from the truth.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Ok but where are you originally from. Because they have a very short list of good countries. And a good many of them will say things like "yeah but you're not one of those immigrants". I'm not saying everyone is like this but a large number are, especially after a few beers.
TBF, when I first heard of this I didn't realise dude was a tromsøværing. He probably isn't that way just young and dumb.
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Brown like south Italians?
Definitely seen south Italians darker than me
but coupled with "exotic looks" and the ability to actually tan it's definitely plenty to produce the "terrorist look" and stand out in Scandinavia -
that's where I store all my best shitposts
Don't forget about all the potential fart jokes.
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Ok but where are you originally from. Because they have a very short list of good countries. And a good many of them will say things like "yeah but you're not one of those immigrants". I'm not saying everyone is like this but a large number are, especially after a few beers.
TBF, when I first heard of this I didn't realise dude was a tromsøværing. He probably isn't that way just young and dumb.
Oh I’m American; I’m an immigrant here. I’m no expert on it. I’ve just lived here for several years and not witnessed that. That said, I’m probably in a bubble.
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Oh I’m American; I’m an immigrant here. I’m no expert on it. I’ve just lived here for several years and not witnessed that. That said, I’m probably in a bubble.
When I first moved here as a Scot I was treated well but I was working an unskilled job and met a wide variety of people. Since transferring to academia there's a lot less of it. But the states is on the good list for Norwegians. Which is probably why the little dude thought he would be fine and all the talk of fascism must be made up.
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Norwegian news says it's because of drugs not a picture.
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I’m a Christian Anarchist myself...
Yeah... Nah...
Heh, it's cool, that's your right.
I hope you have a good one.
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Thanks a lot, this is super helpful actually! Couldn’t imagine driving through areas for hours without reception or any signs of civilization, sounds kinda exciting and scary at the same time. Will definitely keep this saved
wrote last edited by [email protected]I'm glad I could be helpful!
Thankfully, the cell signal situation has improved a LOT among major routes in recent years, so I hope it doesn't sound too scary. There's also safety in numbers, at the very least the buddy system!
There's a lot of online information / guides for travelers, and of course, get a U.S SIM card and check who's got the best/broadest service areas where you'll be going. Also, offline maps can be downloaded to your device as well.
(But learning to use a paper one is always an excellent skill to have!)
In case of an emergency, phones can still usually reach 911 (our emergency services number) if they can reach a cell tower at all, regardless of "subscription", if that's of any comfort.
