What is your personal threshold for being grossed out by owning an object that was once part of a living being, and why?
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I think it's more about presentation for me. For instance I have a turtle skull covered in snake skin on my desk. It make it look like a sick dragon head. So like a slab of human meat would be disgusting just sitting there. However if it was old skin preserved using a specific technique and presented in an artful way then I'd be down with it
I mean, what else should we expect from cryptTurtle?
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I've been browsing antique jewelry a lot lately and wonder about this. With jewelry specifically I think about hair, coral, pearls.
Then that extends out to animal skins, bones, human relics, etc.
What makes one thing gross but the other okay?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Ethics are the big line for me. The human remains market is pretty infamous for having dubiously sourced parts - people who did not consent to having their body bought and sold.
The exhibit Body Worlds, which travels to different museums, is an example of this. Some of the bodies are likely executed prisoners, who did not consent to have their bodies displayed in this way. The US has a horrible history of treating indigenous peoples corpses with disrespect. Two of the children who died in the MOVE bombing ended up in a universities collection without the knowledge or consent of their relatives.
I would be willing to have a skeleton or preserved organs as teaching materials, if I knew the individual involved gave their consent for that use. If I ever can afford a hysterectomy I would love to preserve my uterus for that purpose. I’d love to be an articulated skeleton in a science classroom after I’m done here on earth.
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I've been browsing antique jewelry a lot lately and wonder about this. With jewelry specifically I think about hair, coral, pearls.
Then that extends out to animal skins, bones, human relics, etc.
What makes one thing gross but the other okay?
No limits, but no interest, either.
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I mean... how far down the rabbit hole are we going with 'once part of a living being?' Leather/wool/down?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Cotton? Oil?
Plastic?
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Cotton? Oil?
Plastic?
That's a plant. Not an animal.
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I've been browsing antique jewelry a lot lately and wonder about this. With jewelry specifically I think about hair, coral, pearls.
Then that extends out to animal skins, bones, human relics, etc.
What makes one thing gross but the other okay?
Stuff I associate with prolonged suffering would be my threshold. I know the solemn nature of killing for food and survival. In that experience, limiting suffering is essential. It is an experience that often pushes me more towards veganism. Things that remind me of the failures to limit suffering in any being conjure great melancholic empathy that I would struggle to ameliorate.
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Cotton? Oil?
Plastic?
Well done! Rubber/latex?
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I've been browsing antique jewelry a lot lately and wonder about this. With jewelry specifically I think about hair, coral, pearls.
Then that extends out to animal skins, bones, human relics, etc.
What makes one thing gross but the other okay?
Mostly everything from an animal is gross. I still have some stuff like leather shoes or Merino Wool Underwear for hiking but that's only because I haven't found vailable alternatives.
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That's a plant. Not an animal.
was once part of a living being
He did not say animal.
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I think human parts are a hard no for me, but I'm general good with anything, though usually much less so if the product isn't being produced incidentally.
This means cow leather is generally a okay, but crocodile is something I'll shy away from.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I think human parts are a hard no for me
I'm pretty confident we still have the kids' baby teeth stored somewhere in a box of mementos in the basement (where all our treasured family memories / water heater are stored). I think that is my personal threshold.
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I think human parts are a hard no for me
I'm pretty confident we still have the kids' baby teeth stored somewhere in a box of mementos in the basement (where all our treasured family memories / water heater are stored). I think that is my personal threshold.
You might want to move your memories some place else a little safer. You know, just in case you have an incident with your water heater.
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I've been browsing antique jewelry a lot lately and wonder about this. With jewelry specifically I think about hair, coral, pearls.
Then that extends out to animal skins, bones, human relics, etc.
What makes one thing gross but the other okay?
I personally think keeping things that used to be part of someone else is a bit creepy at best. Bones, skin, feathers, fur, it's all not something I need to have in my home. For example, I saw this guy had turned a family member's bones into a guitar once and it just squicked me the fuck out.
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I mean... how far down the rabbit hole are we going with 'once part of a living being?' Leather/wool/down?
wrote last edited by [email protected]I think that's my question, but I am realizing it could be two or more questions.
Does owning/using something that was part of a living being gross you out?
Either way, what do you consider to have been part of a living being? I think this is an especially interesting question if you do say it does gross you out.
If some things gross you out but others don't, why?
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I personally think keeping things that used to be part of someone else is a bit creepy at best. Bones, skin, feathers, fur, it's all not something I need to have in my home. For example, I saw this guy had turned a family member's bones into a guitar once and it just squicked me the fuck out.
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Of the examples I gave pearl and coral are a hard no, but I was kind of surprised by how horrified I was at the idea of owning something with human hair in it. It made me wonder how other people draw that line.
I would also like to avoid bones, plz.
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I think human parts are a hard no for me, but I'm general good with anything, though usually much less so if the product isn't being produced incidentally.
This means cow leather is generally a okay, but crocodile is something I'll shy away from.
Here's a fun story... Mark Gruenwald, the creator of the Marvel superhero team "Squadron Supreme" (a pastiche of DC's Justice League) passed away.
As part of his will, he requested that he be cremated and his ashes mixed in with the black ink on a reprint of Squadron Supreme.
https://screenrant.com/marvel-comic-printed-creators-ashes-squadron-supreme-gruenwald/
His wife was also stamping his signature in books with the ash ink.
https://teddyandtheyeti.blogspot.com/2019/05/mark-gruenwalds-ash-o-graph-in-squadron.html?m=1
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Here's a fun story... Mark Gruenwald, the creator of the Marvel superhero team "Squadron Supreme" (a pastiche of DC's Justice League) passed away.
As part of his will, he requested that he be cremated and his ashes mixed in with the black ink on a reprint of Squadron Supreme.
https://screenrant.com/marvel-comic-printed-creators-ashes-squadron-supreme-gruenwald/
His wife was also stamping his signature in books with the ash ink.
https://teddyandtheyeti.blogspot.com/2019/05/mark-gruenwalds-ash-o-graph-in-squadron.html?m=1
Okay, that's quite a cool memento. I might not mind that.
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I've been browsing antique jewelry a lot lately and wonder about this. With jewelry specifically I think about hair, coral, pearls.
Then that extends out to animal skins, bones, human relics, etc.
What makes one thing gross but the other okay?
Imagine a sentient tree looking around your home at the table, the chairs, the cabinets, the books...
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I've been browsing antique jewelry a lot lately and wonder about this. With jewelry specifically I think about hair, coral, pearls.
Then that extends out to animal skins, bones, human relics, etc.
What makes one thing gross but the other okay?
Lampshades made of human skin. How about no.
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I've been browsing antique jewelry a lot lately and wonder about this. With jewelry specifically I think about hair, coral, pearls.
Then that extends out to animal skins, bones, human relics, etc.
What makes one thing gross but the other okay?
wrote last edited by [email protected]My only concern for body parts and specimens is/would be: were they ethically sourced? There are laws arround that thankfully.
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I've been browsing antique jewelry a lot lately and wonder about this. With jewelry specifically I think about hair, coral, pearls.
Then that extends out to animal skins, bones, human relics, etc.
What makes one thing gross but the other okay?
I've discussed with family members how it would be awesome to have jewelery made from each others bones. My sister said she'd like to have my dad's skeleton, prepped like for an anatomy class and he was up for it, but it seemed very complicated (and possibly just not allowed) and unsurprisingly expensive.
I don't think we're particularly morbid or gothy, just not grossed out by stuff like that. And I think having a smooth bone ring is a nicer way to remember someone you cared about than an ugly urn full of ashes.
