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What good alternatives to LEGO are there?

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  • rikudou@lemmings.worldR [email protected]

    They're really not that expensive anymore, year by year they're less enthusiast-only and more general consumer friendly.

    Bambu A1 or A1 Mini can comfortably print it with the desired quality.

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    Also, for printing LEGO-like bricks, you can use a smaller printer, and focus on quality

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    • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

      As a Bionicle fan, LEGO recently burnt me and the whole fandom pretty badly. So I'm pretty much giving the whole company the middle finger.

      I know there are probably a bunch of good alternatives out there, and I remember some being mentioned to me previously, but I don't know where to find them.

      I'm looking for LEGO and LEGO Technic alternatives/knock-offs of good quality. Preferable European in origin rather than Chinese.

      They don't need to have popular or brand themes, or be copies of actual LEGO sets, just good parts at good prices.

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      Old post of mine, I need to get round to making a comm for this stuff - in terms of European BlueBrixx and Cobi are all that I'm aware of, BlueBrixx use Chinese bricks too though, there's not much avoiding it. As for a particular set, I've got a tallneck in the backlog that's largely technic, is huge and is well under £200 delivered ~7k parts if I remember right.

      So, as far as I'm aware BlueBrixx use a brick manufacturer called gobricks in China - these are generally considered top tier. Mould King also use gobricks - they do some good start wars/space/car stuff (not clone kits, Mould King are pretty legit, as far as I'm aware they license/pay MOC designers for plans for the most part as well).

      Other brands I don't have experience with (but have a really good rep) are CaDa, Pantasy and Rastar. CaDa and Rastar both license IPs.

      IMO JieStar are also a pretty good brand, they are a brick manufacturer and a set manufacturer. I've never had an issue with a JieStar set, their bricks/clutch is a little tighter than Lego which is sometimes beneficial, sometimes a little annoying, but it's never caused an issue. (I've build a couple of 5k+ brick sets from JieStar - worst I had was a single malformed brick that I just hid). They make clone kits and original IP. (Some cool little 50 pc sets you can pick up for £1-2.

      Reobrix is the other brand I like, they use JieStar bricks but make their own sets and license MOC designer work. Have some interesting aircraft/vehicles. Their cars are good, their B2 bomber was a bigger set, some of it was a little fiddly, but it holds together - it had 1-2 bricks missing, but I picked up replacements on bricklink for pennies.

      I also pick up the odd no-name brand from AliExpress, tbh they've mostly been fine too, a couple were mediocre (I didn't have high expectations £15 for 1000pc sets, they were fine for the price tbh, the bricks were fine for one set, a bit too little clutch on the other - but honestly both look fine when they're assembled. I wasn't disappointed considering the price).

      In terms of ordering -

      YOURWOBB

      Youmko/Barweer

      Marstoy

      I've ordered from all 3, they've all delivered what they said they would. YOURWOBB doesn't do clone sets, all original IP (and you can sort by brand) youmko are a mix, though mostly original stuff. Marstoy officially don't sell clone sets, however they do sell "Brick kits". If you go on the site you'll see a lot of stuff with names like M12345 - take M off the name and reverse the number, this is the corresponding Lego set (eg. M12345 would be Lego set 54321)

      There's loads on AliExpress too - usual rules apply here, but choice, buy an item that has a lot of buyers with good reviews. If you buy a MOC off AliExpress chances are the original designer isn't being compensated - many people will go and buy the design off rebrickable to compensate the designer, but no obligation.

      For minifigs there's:

      RebuildVenus

      This is the same company as Marstoy, free shipping over $17.

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      • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

        As a Bionicle fan, LEGO recently burnt me and the whole fandom pretty badly. So I'm pretty much giving the whole company the middle finger.

        I know there are probably a bunch of good alternatives out there, and I remember some being mentioned to me previously, but I don't know where to find them.

        I'm looking for LEGO and LEGO Technic alternatives/knock-offs of good quality. Preferable European in origin rather than Chinese.

        They don't need to have popular or brand themes, or be copies of actual LEGO sets, just good parts at good prices.

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        What happened with bionicle ?

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        • B [email protected]

          How odd that investing your time and passion into a corporately owned IP would go wrong!

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          Heavy sarcasm there, uncalled for imo. It wouldn't be unheard of for people to invest time and passion into a corporate owned IP, and it doesn't always go belly up. Look at the amount of Elder Scrolls mods and patches just as one example.

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          • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

            There was a big ambitious project called "Masks of Power" which was going to be a full 3D action platformer. It looked truly amazing for a fan project, certainly better than anything LEGO has done for Bionicle.

            The team had been working on the project for eight years. In that time they've had multiple talks with officials from LEGO, who seemed to be fine with it (especially since Bionicle has been dead for 10 years). LEGO featured the project on their official podcast, and even allowed for a Steam release, so long as it remained free and none profit.

            We were going to get the first demo of that game a few months from now. But two weeks ago LEGO sent a cease and desist, and the project is dead.

            There are several large, ambitious projects in the works by Bionicle fans, a number of them animation projects, one of which I'm part of as 3D artist... But now with Team Kanohi and their game project lynched, we're all feeling like there's a sword hanging over our heads.

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            That sucks, I'm really sorry. My sympathies as a fellow 3D artist.

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            • rhaedas@fedia.ioR [email protected]

              That's even more why it feels like someone new in the company stepping in and questioning why there isn't something in play officially if there's interest in freeware/open source. Someone who talked to the lawyers first to make sure no right were signed away yet. That may be very pessimistic and conspiratorial, but if there isn't any reason to stop someone else's work on something, why would they send one? I don't know a lot about copyrights and trademarks, but I do think there is a point where if you aren't using an asset and others are interested, you shouldn't be able to just hold it under lock and key and do nothing with it. I think patents are like that, you have like 20 years or something protected to do something, and then it's open(?) Again, I'm not sure.

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              Yeah, there has been some idea floating about that this might be in advant of a new Bionicle reboot. A G3.

              But the way LEGO is treating its fans has killed any anticipation I have for a new Bionicle line. If there does end up coming a Bionicle G3, then it's only because we are here. It's because of us that LEGO might even consider trying Bionicle again is financially viable. If this is the way LEGO thanks its fans for keeping it alive, then to put it mildly; they can go fuck themselves.

              Anyway, between 2014 and 2015 LEGO already tried to reboot Bionicle, and failed miserably at it. LEGO seems to have forgotten what exactly made Bionicle so succesful, and now considers the original success as a fluke. As lightning in a bottle. Truth is that there was a lot of passion behind Bionicle, something that G2 and any potential G3 will be missing.

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              • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                There was a big ambitious project called "Masks of Power" which was going to be a full 3D action platformer. It looked truly amazing for a fan project, certainly better than anything LEGO has done for Bionicle.

                The team had been working on the project for eight years. In that time they've had multiple talks with officials from LEGO, who seemed to be fine with it (especially since Bionicle has been dead for 10 years). LEGO featured the project on their official podcast, and even allowed for a Steam release, so long as it remained free and none profit.

                We were going to get the first demo of that game a few months from now. But two weeks ago LEGO sent a cease and desist, and the project is dead.

                There are several large, ambitious projects in the works by Bionicle fans, a number of them animation projects, one of which I'm part of as 3D artist... But now with Team Kanohi and their game project lynched, we're all feeling like there's a sword hanging over our heads.

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                That really sucks!
                But Lego has a reputation for being a real dickhead of a company, though.
                Quality of sets has long been in decline also.

                High time for a change!

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                • buboscandiacus@mander.xyzB [email protected]

                  What happened with bionicle ?

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                  It was a sub-brand of Lego. Saved them from going under actually. Then discontinued and later rebooted (with different designs and parts) and rediscontinuted.

                  Here's a good doc on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=126bLUkHuNI

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                  • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                    There was a big ambitious project called "Masks of Power" which was going to be a full 3D action platformer. It looked truly amazing for a fan project, certainly better than anything LEGO has done for Bionicle.

                    The team had been working on the project for eight years. In that time they've had multiple talks with officials from LEGO, who seemed to be fine with it (especially since Bionicle has been dead for 10 years). LEGO featured the project on their official podcast, and even allowed for a Steam release, so long as it remained free and none profit.

                    We were going to get the first demo of that game a few months from now. But two weeks ago LEGO sent a cease and desist, and the project is dead.

                    There are several large, ambitious projects in the works by Bionicle fans, a number of them animation projects, one of which I'm part of as 3D artist... But now with Team Kanohi and their game project lynched, we're all feeling like there's a sword hanging over our heads.

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                    Appreciate the background. That really sucks for the team working on Masks of Power, and I hope that your project doesn't suffer the same fate.

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                    • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                      As a Bionicle fan, LEGO recently burnt me and the whole fandom pretty badly. So I'm pretty much giving the whole company the middle finger.

                      I know there are probably a bunch of good alternatives out there, and I remember some being mentioned to me previously, but I don't know where to find them.

                      I'm looking for LEGO and LEGO Technic alternatives/knock-offs of good quality. Preferable European in origin rather than Chinese.

                      They don't need to have popular or brand themes, or be copies of actual LEGO sets, just good parts at good prices.

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                      COBI is good. You can't get Lockheed Martin or Northrop Corp. licensed planes at LEGO

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                      • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                        Can't afford it (or one that would make anything in the quality I'm after) and don't have space for one.

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                        a hanfdul of lego sets is more expensive.

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                        • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                          As a Bionicle fan, LEGO recently burnt me and the whole fandom pretty badly. So I'm pretty much giving the whole company the middle finger.

                          I know there are probably a bunch of good alternatives out there, and I remember some being mentioned to me previously, but I don't know where to find them.

                          I'm looking for LEGO and LEGO Technic alternatives/knock-offs of good quality. Preferable European in origin rather than Chinese.

                          They don't need to have popular or brand themes, or be copies of actual LEGO sets, just good parts at good prices.

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                          Actually, besides Lego, there are many high-quality building block brands to choose from. In recent years, Chinese building block brands have also launched many independently innovative products. Moreover, the quality of China's top building block manufacturers has long been comparable to that of Lego's products. Recently, a friend recommended a website to me—they are OEM manufacturers for multiple Chinese building block brands. My friend has purchased their products and spoke very highly of them. The prices are also highly cost-effective, so I'd like to share the website with you. Here's their official site: https://brickvivid.com/

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                          • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                            As a Bionicle fan, LEGO recently burnt me and the whole fandom pretty badly. So I'm pretty much giving the whole company the middle finger.

                            I know there are probably a bunch of good alternatives out there, and I remember some being mentioned to me previously, but I don't know where to find them.

                            I'm looking for LEGO and LEGO Technic alternatives/knock-offs of good quality. Preferable European in origin rather than Chinese.

                            They don't need to have popular or brand themes, or be copies of actual LEGO sets, just good parts at good prices.

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                            There’s BlueBrixx. They used to have the Star Trek license.

                            https://www.bluebrixx.com/

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