What's the "keeping it real" history that Americans are taught the whitewashed version in school?
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Many already know Zinn, but posting it for some for whom this is new
https://archive.org/details/pdfy-otanUZGGGcnDgfr7/page/n1/mode/1up
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"black people are equal now"
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"black people are equal now"
Women are equal now!
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I'm looking for the real history. Not the Pilgrims and the native Americans sang kumbaya
As has been mentioned before - Howard Zinn. His 'A People's History of the United States' is jaw-dropping. This book literally changed my life.
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As has been mentioned before - Howard Zinn. His 'A People's History of the United States' is jaw-dropping. This book literally changed my life.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I knew that book was solid when my father said it was too radical lol
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I did not find out about the Tuskegee Syphilis Study until adulthood. Its the biggest thing I can think of.
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Most of the people on the Mayflower were businessman. Very few were the legendary āPilgrimsā - who were less fleeing persecution and more the fact that they couldnāt persecute others anyway.
The entire narrative we teach in school is about the Pilgrims is bullshit.
Most US history educations are going to give you very sparse details about the brutality of the genocide of Native Americans. Smallpox blankets were real. Treaties were treated as suggestions rather than anything binding - we still donāt really honor them today.
A substantial cause of the Revolutionary War was that England wanted to reserve areas for Native Americans. Not even out of the goodness of their heart, but because it was fucking expensive to send and kit soldiers because colonists kept fucking with the tribes. All of those Intolerable Taxes and shit were kinda needed to fund the fact that colonists kept sticking their dick in a beehive and had to get epipen-ed by the Crown.
The Civil War was 100% about slavery. The āstates rightsā bullshit was fabricated in the decades after the war. There has been a full century of deliberate assaults on the real history of slavery and the Civil War in the United States. The unique character of its brutality (race based chattel slavery is not like what was practiced by other civilizations) is underplayed. (āB-b-b-but the first slave was an Irish guy owned by a Black manā or other bullshit - deliberately conflating things like indentured servitude with chattel slavery.)
The modern American police force is basically a direct descendent of slave patrols. The brutality against black men is also a long legacy - they made purses out of Nat Turnerās skin, and probably even ate parts of him.
Slavery didnāt really end. During reconstruction and afterwords, communities passed bullshit laws to re-enslave black people. Itās very easy to make an argument that the āwar on drugsā in the US is a way of maintaining slavery, because the 14th amendment explicitly has a carve out that slavery is permitted if you are convicted of a crime.
The Gulf of Tonkin incident, which was used to justify the Vietnam War, was a false flag. The idea that soldiers returning from war were spat on or harassed was something very deliberately propagandized. Not that it didnāt happen, but not to the extent it was portrayed.
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I knew that book was solid when my father said it was too radical lol
Heheh....a very wise man once told me that 'every truth begins as a heresy'. In the 30+ years since I was told this, I have found it to be completely accurate.
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Another book to mention - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies_My_Teacher_Told_Me
I've only flipped through briefly, so I can't elaborate on the points. But I've heard reccomendations for it, and it seems exactly along the lines of this discussion.
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We have a classist system with heavy dash of racism and starting 40 years ago low class mobility
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I did not find out about the Tuskegee Syphilis Study until adulthood. Its the biggest thing I can think of.
If you find Tuskegee shocking and horrifying, wait until you learn about the āFather of Gynecology.ā
Thereās still a huge problem in medicine where doctors and nurses believe that Black people have more natural pain tolerance. It was in textbooks up into the 80ās.
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The Tulsa Race Massacre.
Fred Hampton's story and assassination.
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The Tulsa Race Massacre.
Fred Hampton's story and assassination.
American kids are not taught about those in school.
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Most of the people on the Mayflower were businessman. Very few were the legendary āPilgrimsā - who were less fleeing persecution and more the fact that they couldnāt persecute others anyway.
The entire narrative we teach in school is about the Pilgrims is bullshit.
Most US history educations are going to give you very sparse details about the brutality of the genocide of Native Americans. Smallpox blankets were real. Treaties were treated as suggestions rather than anything binding - we still donāt really honor them today.
A substantial cause of the Revolutionary War was that England wanted to reserve areas for Native Americans. Not even out of the goodness of their heart, but because it was fucking expensive to send and kit soldiers because colonists kept fucking with the tribes. All of those Intolerable Taxes and shit were kinda needed to fund the fact that colonists kept sticking their dick in a beehive and had to get epipen-ed by the Crown.
The Civil War was 100% about slavery. The āstates rightsā bullshit was fabricated in the decades after the war. There has been a full century of deliberate assaults on the real history of slavery and the Civil War in the United States. The unique character of its brutality (race based chattel slavery is not like what was practiced by other civilizations) is underplayed. (āB-b-b-but the first slave was an Irish guy owned by a Black manā or other bullshit - deliberately conflating things like indentured servitude with chattel slavery.)
The modern American police force is basically a direct descendent of slave patrols. The brutality against black men is also a long legacy - they made purses out of Nat Turnerās skin, and probably even ate parts of him.
Slavery didnāt really end. During reconstruction and afterwords, communities passed bullshit laws to re-enslave black people. Itās very easy to make an argument that the āwar on drugsā in the US is a way of maintaining slavery, because the 14th amendment explicitly has a carve out that slavery is permitted if you are convicted of a crime.
The Gulf of Tonkin incident, which was used to justify the Vietnam War, was a false flag. The idea that soldiers returning from war were spat on or harassed was something very deliberately propagandized. Not that it didnāt happen, but not to the extent it was portrayed.
As someone from the north, we were very explicitly taught that the civil war was about slavery.
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I'm not from there but I'll say that The US doesn't intervene overseas in order "to spread democracy" or "to protect the world from the evils of communism" but to protect its economic interests, to increase the profits of capitalists through industries such as weapons and oil, and to make sure that no socialism occurs that threatens the stranglehold of capitalism.
Some books to check:
- Major General Smedley D. Butler - War Is A Racket
- Tim Weiner - Legacy Of Ashes: The History Of The CIA
- William Blum - Killing Hope: US Military And CIA Interventions Since World War II
- Noam Chomsky - What Uncle Sam Really Wants
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As someone from the north, we were very explicitly taught that the civil war was about slavery.
As someone from the south; we were not. I was lucky enough to have a cousin with an anti-authority complex and internet access, but most of my classmates were not.
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American kids are not taught about those in school.
I believe that's the OP question. Americans aren't taught those in school,so they're the "keeping it real" history.
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Even PragerU admits it nowadays, to their rare credit. I flipped through some state standards, and even the usual suspects do agree now.
However, a quick scroll on news comment thread about confederate statues or a convo with a high school teacher in like fucking Durant or something will reveal that Lost Cause bullshit is still alive and well.
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I believe that's the OP question. Americans aren't taught those in school,so they're the "keeping it real" history.
wrote last edited by [email protected]The only parts of post reconstruction slavery told are that the blacks marched peacefully and we just decided to start being nice to them and integrating schools/bathrooms/neighborhoods.
Growing up in the US I was never taught about any violence the US government or society committed against its own people. That also excluded the Ludlow massacre and similar events where violence was used against workers instead of blacks.
Tulsa race massacre and black Wallstreet, the 1985 MOVE bombing, the Ludlow massacre, all our coups, totally absent from American history classes.
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The Tulsa Race Massacre.
Fred Hampton's story and assassination.
I grew up in Oklahoma and was not taught about it in high school. I believe they finally added it to the standards in the mid 2010ās. Iāve talked to many people who learned about it from the Watchman series of all things.
The Oklahoma Supreme Court shut down a request for reparations by survivors a few years ago.
