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  • kazerniel@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

    two drives in the same PC/server count, but it’s sketchy on its own

    If your house/office burns down, all your data is lost. At least one backup should be off-site!

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    One backup copy isn't enough anyway! The more the merrier, just make sure that enough of it is automated that your backups don't get stale, and ideally stagger the timings so you don't immediately overwrite all the automated backups with trash data once something goes wrong.

    At one point I accidentally deleted a file, but I could conveniently copy it from the copy in my fileserver that automatically gets updated every two weeks.

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      What are you referring to? What is "ZK" here?

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      Zero Knowledge ie service provider doesn't have view of the content just that you are using the service e

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        In the process of degoogling my life. Email and files are gone, but I use GMaps, still.

        Google (still) offers a regular backup of your data to download. You can set it up to run at intervals and just download the entire thing. Includes file (and photos), email, messages, etc. It's great for products you forget you were using, and great for an offline backup.

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        I use waze and google maps. Although I contribute sometimes with streetcomplete and openstreetmaps, their respective android apps are dog shit at navigating. Certain hiking trails and maybe biking trails though, they might be better but for things like driving cars, traffic reports, nearby attractions, google is still superior.

        Edit: fixed bad grammar

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          people don't need to learn that. these things need to be regulated. also Google needs to be broken up to like 12 pieces or nationalized. what needs to happen is companies not have this much power ever.

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          Famously Americans did the splitting thing once before with Standard Oil and it was immensely beneficial to the economy in general. Just checked the wiki and it was more than 100 years ago. Unlikely the same laws are still on the books.

          There are several companies currently active that deserve the same treatment.

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            The extra words are not needed. The most accurate version is just:

            Don’t trust cloud companies.

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            The extra words are not needed. The most accurate version is just:

            Don’t trust companies.

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            • deflated0ne@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

              Am I too old? I only trust hard saving to offline storage. Be that an external hdd or a flash drive.

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              You don't need to trust to use cloud services, I copy encrypted backups into the cloud. The only risk is that they don't give it back but that's why you have multiple backups.

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                Zero Knowledge ie service provider doesn't have view of the content just that you are using the service e

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                So something like MEGA or Proton Drive?

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                  I convert all my files to wavforms and teach starlings the songs

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                  Hard to take the photo of it, but I backed up your comment to a CD:

                  Software used: https://github.com/arduinocelentano/cdimage

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                    The extra words are not needed. The most accurate version is just:

                    Don’t trust companies.

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                    The extra words are not needed. The most accurate version is just:

                    Don’t trust.

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                      So something like MEGA or Proton Drive?

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                      All proton services are zk except their LLM Andy is trying to sell us recently.

                      Filen, bitwarden any self respecting service is now zk.

                      If it ain't, you are being punked

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                      • deflated0ne@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                        Am I too old? I only trust hard saving to offline storage. Be that an external hdd or a flash drive.

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                        Yeah, for me cloud storage is one of many backups, but it's just that, a backup. It should never be the original or only. It's there in case your PC shits the bed, not as your prime storage.

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                          I use waze and google maps. Although I contribute sometimes with streetcomplete and openstreetmaps, their respective android apps are dog shit at navigating. Certain hiking trails and maybe biking trails though, they might be better but for things like driving cars, traffic reports, nearby attractions, google is still superior.

                          Edit: fixed bad grammar

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                          FYI Waze is owned by Google.

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                            https://fosstodon.org/@pheonix/114931121766433702

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                            Be careful who you trust with your data! And back it up

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                              Be careful who you trust with your data! And back it up

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                              That's a long way to go for an ad. Good read though.

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                                All proton services are zk except their LLM Andy is trying to sell us recently.

                                Filen, bitwarden any self respecting service is now zk.

                                If it ain't, you are being punked

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                                Thanks for the explanation. I always knew that concept just as E2EE.

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                                  Is local storage even safe from big corp just remotely nuking your files? I'm sure there's a secret button somewhere to mass delete photos from people's phones incase they start rolling in the tanks to crush a protest.

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                                    Reminds me of when I had about 3 or 4 TB in my schools storage because hey free benefit

                                    They removed the education free unlimited storage during my senior year and blocked access to my supposedly permanent school email because I didn't reduce my storage usage lol

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                                      Is local storage even safe from big corp just remotely nuking your files? I'm sure there's a secret button somewhere to mass delete photos from people's phones incase they start rolling in the tanks to crush a protest.

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                                      If you're running a corpo os on your hardware this could very much happen

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                                        If you're running a corpo os on your hardware this could very much happen

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                                        The thing is, we really don't know what's in the hardware, how do we know there isn't a "Intel ME" on your phone that is just hibernating, waiting for the right kill signal?

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                                          Reminds me of when I had about 3 or 4 TB in my schools storage because hey free benefit

                                          They removed the education free unlimited storage during my senior year and blocked access to my supposedly permanent school email because I didn't reduce my storage usage lol

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                                          I mean it's technically permanent as long as your organization continues paying for the license

                                          Of course, they could downgrade your license or revoke it at any time. And they definitely will revoke it when you graduate (so they can reallocate the licensing costs to new students).

                                          Your work/school accounts don't belong to you.

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