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  • zeldafreak@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

    Here people even "steal" books from public bookcases and sell them.

    For people who aren't familiar, let me explain:
    These public bookcases are a weatherproof shelf, old phone booth or something in the streets. The concept is you can take any book and leave any book. There are no written rules and you can keep a book if you like or just read it and put it back. In recent years people started to scan the barcodes and checked what books they can sell. There is a debate going on if people should mark these books or not, so they can't be sold.

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    Who tf is buying normal books from the local black market in 2025 is my real question here

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      Who tf is buying normal books from the local black market in 2025 is my real question here

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      It's more of an online market. eBay, Amazon to a certain extent, there's loads of book specific ones and some that are for used items generally and allow books. And unless marked it's not the black market at all. I mean obviously the book is stolen, but it's just entering the used market as opposed to being sold through a fence or whatever

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        The epubs in my PIRATED MEDIA folder begs to differ

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        Piracy is not theft. You have not deprived anyone of something they would otherwise have.

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          Me, stealing every pdf I can find:

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          Digital piracy is not theft. You’re not depriving the person who shared the pdf to you of anything.

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            Piracy is not theft. You have not deprived anyone of something they would otherwise have.

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            I have deprived the authors and publishers and bookstores of the money they would've made.

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              I have deprived the authors and publishers and bookstores of the money they would've made.

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              You were never gonna buy all those books in the first place.

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                You were never gonna buy all those books in the first place.

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                This. As a hillbilly with no access to books growing up, with my education practically stopping at the 4th grade and no stores in sight to purchase books from, I would have never had access to the things I read without piracy.

                I half believe that’s why it’s an issue in the first place.

                I started my reading adventure at 640x480 on windows 98.

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                  They should learn to read and find out the shit Sheherazade said about them.

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                    I have deprived the authors and publishers and bookstores of the money they would've made.

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                    Debatable.

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                    • platypode@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

                      That’s a semantic point. The truth is that artists deserve to be paid for their work. Whether you “copy” or “steal”, you’re getting the work without paying the creator. That’s fundamentally shitty behavior.

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                      Is it stealing if I buy a second hand book? I'm still getting to enjoy the work without paying the author (even if the original person paid). Multiple people can own a physical copy at different times (with the author only getting paid once).

                      Just like downloads. I don't feel bad about downloading stuff that's out of print. No one is making money from it now anyway, so what harm. If anything, digital copies help to stop these books being lost.

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                        I have deprived the authors and publishers and bookstores of the money they would've made.

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                        I have a physical book collection worth thousands of dollars. The only party that has profited off me is Elsevier.

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                          I have a physical book collection worth thousands of dollars. The only party that has profited off me is Elsevier.

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                          Thousands of dollars for your books? Three books hardly counts as a collection.

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                            Thousands of dollars for your books? Three books hardly counts as a collection.

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                            Hah. Our textbook market isn't quite as captured. They run from $50-$350. I have about 100 textbooks and a bit under 200 books total.

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                              Next you'll tell me that you wouldn't download a car.

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                                I have deprived the authors and publishers and bookstores of the money they would've made.

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                                The picture clearly shows a 2nd hand book market. No money is going to the authors or publishers there either.

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                                  Yeah or what happens when it rains? Or someone drops a book into what appears to be an upper gutter running through the middle of the street?

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                                  The image is incredibly misleading. Its an indoor Bazar which is locked at night.

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                                    The image is incredibly misleading. Its an indoor Bazar which is locked at night.

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                                    Is the gutter locked at night? Also there appears to be a questionably secured window unit air conditioner. Which in the worst case might fall onto a gentle reader. But more likely condensation would drip onto the stack of books below.

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                                      I have deprived the authors and publishers and bookstores of the money they would've made.

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                                      Libraries, lending to a friend, donating to someone, buying used... All the same as piracy?

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