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  • ebby@lemmy.ssba.comE [email protected]

    They could have been renters in the first place.

    Over in my parts we had a big problem of landlords jacking up rent to squeeze tenants out and list the property on Airbnb. I haven't followed those trends in a while though. I think the turnover/cleaning cycle cut into ROI and discouraged that trend a bit.

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    completely unrelated to your comment but the post above this one was a few children roleplaying guillotine

    i know. unrelated to this topic, but its pretty neat

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      why would anarchism be a solution to this, surely it would make it worse?

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      • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

        Reducing rent prices was the plan and to be honest, the obvious outcome when demand goes down.

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        You can also buy one of these tiny former airbnb studio condos for like 20k cad down if you are desperate. Good way to enter the market if that's all you can come up with. They are all sitting on the market and you can lowball.

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          They banned airbnb in victoria bc last year and rent here has actually went down. From this one single change.

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          I live in a small CA mountain town that was "the only town open" during COVID, and as such, Airbnb went apeshit. Well the market got oversaturated and now with people trying to offload these properties or rent them out to long term residents , and shocker, rents are coming down (along with home prices). We still have yoyos trying to get $4k/mo for a 2/1 piece of shit because I'm guessing they're upside down on their mortgage, but those properties have been sitting on the market for at least 6mos. I have zero empathy for the people that bought high and losing their asses because they wanted to make it rich at the expense of our local population.

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            I live in a small CA mountain town that was "the only town open" during COVID, and as such, Airbnb went apeshit. Well the market got oversaturated and now with people trying to offload these properties or rent them out to long term residents , and shocker, rents are coming down (along with home prices). We still have yoyos trying to get $4k/mo for a 2/1 piece of shit because I'm guessing they're upside down on their mortgage, but those properties have been sitting on the market for at least 6mos. I have zero empathy for the people that bought high and losing their asses because they wanted to make it rich at the expense of our local population.

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            Canmore?

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              why would anarchism be a solution to this, surely it would make it worse?

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              Make a place undesirable to rent an Abnb in and people may stop renting.

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                What is that even supposed to mean? You sold the home to someone else who rents it out?

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                Long term renter evicted in favor of short term Air BnB.

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                  why would anarchism be a solution to this, surely it would make it worse?

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                  Do you even know what anarchism is like at all?

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                    completely unrelated to your comment but the post above this one was a few children roleplaying guillotine

                    i know. unrelated to this topic, but its pretty neat

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                    I saw that pic too! Coffee hadn't kicked in yet and took me a second to realize what was going on. Kids toys are so bland these days.

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                      What is that even supposed to mean? You sold the home to someone else who rents it out?

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                      Property owners realized they can do a long term rental for $2000/month, or short-term rentals for $2000/week. Obviously, they chose the more profitable one. So people who want to live in a place long term, perhaps fueling the local economy and community, get pushed out.

                      Then, the places that remain as long term rentals raise the prices because there's fewer of them competing (assuming they aren't already forming a cartel)

                      Personally I think the state should have a heavier hand in providing housing. It's too essential to let private forces squeeze it for profit.

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                        From what I heard from my brother, he lives in Barcelona, they are banning bnbs and short term rentals. In order to combat this problem.

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                          Renting out property is so evil, and Airbnb is like a double evil on top of that. Very powerful graffiti that makes a good clear message, well done to whoever did this.

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                          • fenrasulfr@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                            From what I heard from my brother, he lives in Barcelona, they are banning bnbs and short term rentals. In order to combat this problem.

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                            For more details: https://www.euronews.com/travel/2024/07/22/the-end-of-airbnb-in-barcelona-what-does-the-tourism-industry-have-to-say

                            I live here ([email protected]), the mayor who announced the decision made it so that it would applied after the end of his tenure (that will end in 2027, the decision is supposed to happen in 2028)

                            The other issue is that even besides tourism, Barcelona is a very attractive city for Spanish people due to the work opportunities, and there is definitely a lack of supply for the housing market. Getting back the Airbnb would help with the mass tourism (which is an issue of its own), but the housing crisis might still be there for a while.

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                              Spain is cracking down on this according to a local when I was there recently.

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                                why would anarchism be a solution to this, surely it would make it worse?

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                                They could live in a home, for staters. Squatting is the crime of living in somebody else's legal property, but under anarchy, an unused home is being put to use, arguably to do what is was designed for. We don't necessarily need total anarchy to push the idea that "sometimes the rules are worse than no rules at all".

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                                  Not sure if anyone who lives here hasn't seen it yet, but [email protected] is a thing.

                                  Copy pasted from another comment, the mayor who announced the decision made it so that it would applied after the end of his tenure (that will end in 2027, the decision is supposed to happen in 2028)

                                  The other issue is that even besides tourism, Barcelona is a very attractive city for Spanish people due to the work opportunities, and there is definitely a lack of supply for the housing market. Getting back the Airbnb would help with the mass tourism (which is an issue of its own), but the housing crisis might still be there for a while.

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                                    Do you even know what anarchism is like at all?

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                                    Zero government. No rules. Take it with force. Of course we're aware of what y'all think. You're the libertarians of the left.

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                                      why would anarchism be a solution to this, surely it would make it worse?

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                                      Tell me you know nothing of anarchy without saying you know nothing.

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                                        Zero government. No rules. Take it with force. Of course we're aware of what y'all think. You're the libertarians of the left.

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                                        Nope, try again.

                                        No kings, no masters. Mutual aid and harmony without authoritarian leadership.

                                        Kropotkin can explain it better than I can, maybe pick up his book called Mutual Aid.

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                                          why would anarchism be a solution to this, surely it would make it worse?

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                                          Since no one is answering seriously, I will try. There is a distinct difference in anarchist philosophy between property and possession which I will try to explain with housing.

                                          Property is something that is used to oppress people. Which is why anarchist philosophy aims to abolish all property. In this case, housing that is being used for Airbnbs takes a house from someone that could use it to create a home for themselves and their family and instead uses that land and building to make a profit .

                                          Possession on the other hand would be someone using that land and building to make a home for themselves and their family, not to make a profit but to survive and exist.

                                          Owning one home for yourself is not a property but a possession but owning multiple homes that you use to make a profit is property. So the anarchist solution to this is to give that Airbnb to someone who could make it into a permanent home, not a short term rental.

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