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When rich people can edit their kids DNA won't that just lock everyone else out and create a new class?

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    CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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    Yeah it will be new class of morons that will buy out all the water and energy to feed their shiny computers so you can live in dark and starve to death.

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    • E [email protected]

      I'm compelled to mention every time GATTACA is mentioned, that the title is made up of the amino acids* that comprise our DNA: A,T,C,G

      *nucleic acids

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      I've never studied anything about genetics or DNA, but I didn't know that until the first time I showed my then girlfriend (now wife). Once the general premise became clear, she said something like "I should have guessed, since the title is made with A,T,C,G."

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      • Y [email protected]

        CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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        Despite being nearly 100 years old, Brave New World (1931), written by Aldous Huxley, covers the idea of class-based genetic engineering and genetics based class definition, as one of its core themes.

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        • Y [email protected]

          CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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          This is the theme of the Divergent series.

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          • Y [email protected]

            CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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            Nature takes its course.

            Remember the rich tried to keep their genes separate from the masses by inbreeding. Look at where that got them.

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            • E [email protected]

              I'm compelled to mention every time GATTACA is mentioned, that the title is made up of the amino acids* that comprise our DNA: A,T,C,G

              *nucleic acids

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              Nucleic acids

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              • Y [email protected]

                CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                https://y.yarn.co/c778925d-9d6f-4021-964e-80701ea4c901_text.gif

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                  As others have said, go see Gattaca. It's completely about this topic and very interesting.

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                  ::: spoiler spoiler

                  :::

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                    This is the theme of the Divergent series.

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                    Huh. I guess I didn't really never thought of it that way

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                    • S [email protected]

                      You know I never noticed that but that's a nice subtle reference.

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                      Wish they had a blooper reel called TATTACA.

                      (That was all five of you biochemists out there)

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                      • Y [email protected]

                        CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                        What change would a person who thinks they're already perfect make?

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                          CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                          Yes, we will end up with Eloi and Morlocs

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                            If the 'rich' are anything about choosing genes as they have been about choosing plastic surgery, we know that most of them will make a complete hack of it and their offspring will suffer for it.

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                            Exactly what I mean! Every time we've gotten real, subjective choices about the design of an organism we've ended up with something that's paradoxically kinda bad by anyone's judgement.

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                              What change would a person who thinks they're already perfect make?

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                              Can never have too big of a dick. 🤷‍♂️

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                                Can never have too big of a dick. 🤷‍♂️

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                                When the kid grows up "my dick is too big, I'm transitioning to get rid of it" 😂

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                                  CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                                  I still need to read Red Rising.

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                                    ::: spoiler spoiler

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                                    An incredibly powerful scene. I still think about it regularly when thinking about human limitations.

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                                    • libertylizard@slrpnk.netL [email protected]

                                      Yeah it’s a cool movie but the message of systemic disadvantages don’t matter if you try hard enough is a little questionable at best.

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                                      I don't think that was the message at all.

                                      The end message is that the doctor knew all along, and was helping him from the beginning. It didn't matter how much work he put in, how hard he tried. How much he lied or cheated or "overcame his limitation", at the end of the day he would have never succeeded without help from a fellow human.

                                      Doing it all himself had started to make him prideful to some degree. And realizing that, in the background, he didn't do it all himself was a last kick of humility to (ironically) ground the character before he leaves the ground forever.

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                                      • Y [email protected]

                                        CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                                        We're still overdue for a eugenics war and WW3 before Star Trek timeline.

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                                          I don't think that was the message at all.

                                          The end message is that the doctor knew all along, and was helping him from the beginning. It didn't matter how much work he put in, how hard he tried. How much he lied or cheated or "overcame his limitation", at the end of the day he would have never succeeded without help from a fellow human.

                                          Doing it all himself had started to make him prideful to some degree. And realizing that, in the background, he didn't do it all himself was a last kick of humility to (ironically) ground the character before he leaves the ground forever.

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                                          He knew all along? I guess I didn’t pick up on that. I thought it was just at the very end.

                                          I can see how that might change the message of the film somewhat.

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