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Google is on the Wrong Side of History.

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  • B [email protected]

    You're conflating two unrelated things to make some weird anti-government point.

    Conservatives believe that hierarchical structures are the natural order of things. That is, things on top of the hierarchy deserve to be there, because otherwise they'd be at the bottom. Conservatism as a political philosophy requires the belief that some people are just better than others.

    A belief that a strong government is required to enforce equality in the population is nothing like that.

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    Progressivism is the other side of that coin, a belief that we need strong hierarchy with the "right people" at the top to have a functioning society. It's the same basic idea that we either need or deserve strong leadership.

    For some reason those two are being pitched at the only valid ideas, probably because those at the top benefit from people believing that. There are other ideas, they just don't have that "quick solution" people seem to crave that only comes from top down control.

    Just because one side of the coin is bad doesn't make the other side good. Get a better coin.

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      This is why the stock market was, fundamentally, a trojan horse. It was created so capitalism could intertwine the peoples wealth and retirement funds to the success of the wealth of the oligarchy, making the entire market too big to fail.

      Now the entire system is designed to prevent damage to companies, no matter how moral, unethical, or criminal. The success of corporations IS treated as equal to "national security".

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      In the end, the stock market is a natural logical progression from the starts of capitalism, and the situation we are in today is again closer to capitalism logical conclusion

      From capitalism's basic principles, profit above literally everything was always bound to happen. Just how evolution happens through natural selection. It's a similar process. Because ultimately capitalism is an economic system built on competition, not cooperation.

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      • Z [email protected]

        Unfortunately alternatives aren't any better...

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        They very much are, there's just little to no political will to implement them

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          Been that way since before the “Don’t be evil” slogan was removed in 2018.

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          • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

            Been that way since before the “Don’t be evil” slogan was removed in 2018.

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            That's just when they let the mask slip. It's not like they were saints up til that point.

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              Fuck them

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              Fuck what they stand for and implemented. The technologies developed are useful but the maliciousness of it ruins everything. So fuck that part of them.

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                Unfortunately alternatives aren't any better...

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                Man too bad all I've got to eat is this cyanide. Those cookies over there? Don't you know how unhealthy those are?

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                  All the CEOs are dick riding Trump because they know the playbook. You've never seen kowtowing this hard before because you've never witnessed the rise of a christofascism. They know what's coming/here, and that the god emperor is all that matters going forward.

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                    That's just when they let the mask slip. It's not like they were saints up til that point.

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                    Hence “before they removed” the slogan.

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                    • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                      Been that way since before the “Don’t be evil” slogan was removed in 2018.

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                      I don't think they actually removed that slogan though? They moved it from the start of the Code of Conduct to the end, but it's still there: https://abc.xyz/investor/google-code-of-conduct/

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                        Google America is on the Wrong side of History.

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                          Corporations just reflect the values of their owners. There are companies that emphasize things other than revenue, but as soon as a company goes public and becomes controlled by Wall Street, profit becomes their sole motivation

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                          Yup, but most people have savings or some kind of pension, both are often put into the stock market by the bank or pension fund to give us the interest we want.

                          We need to try and exercise more of our power as stakeholder in these companies, in the end we still have the power to not use products from these massive corporations. Stop order from shit like Amazon, but go and order from smaller stores, switch search engine and browser, etc.

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                            All the CEOs are dick riding Trump because they know the playbook. You've never seen kowtowing this hard before because you've never witnessed the rise of a christofascism. They know what's coming/here, and that the god emperor is all that matters going forward.

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                            You're not from America are you?

                            I ask this because you seem to actually grasp what's happening.

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                              Man too bad all I've got to eat is this cyanide. Those cookies over there? Don't you know how unhealthy those are?

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                              Socialism is cyanide and capitalism is cookies. The former will kill you instantly, the second one long-term (diabetes etc.) – what we're looking for is fruit and vegetables, but for now I'm more than glad to eat some cookies.

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                                Here's a gun to your head, now, it would be beneficial to you to hand over your wallet m'kay?

                                No bullet in your brain, more cash in my hand, both parties benefit! See how that works?

                                Oh, you have a lump growing in your thyroid, mmmm.... that is bad. We can cut that out for you and most people we do that to live a lot longer, but first we need you to mortgage your home and give us the proceeds. See how that works?

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                                Gun to the head is exactly why the word "voluntary" is specified

                                But yes, you could eventually say "I did not consent to be born please arrest my mom"

                                In that case, you can also solve your examole choice by gun grabbing ans shooting the guy if he lets you take it.

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                                  Socialism is cyanide and capitalism is cookies. The former will kill you instantly, the second one long-term (diabetes etc.) – what we're looking for is fruit and vegetables, but for now I'm more than glad to eat some cookies.

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                                  Frankly, the problem with socialism (and with anything else, for that matter) is that it takes one high-up enough asshole to ruin things for everyone.

                                  Then again, I have little-to-no proposals to counter your argument, so I guess it's back to cookies and diabetes for us

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                                    Gun to the head is exactly why the word "voluntary" is specified

                                    But yes, you could eventually say "I did not consent to be born please arrest my mom"

                                    In that case, you can also solve your examole choice by gun grabbing ans shooting the guy if he lets you take it.

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                                    you can also solve your examole choice by gun grabbing ans shooting the guy if he lets you take it.

                                    Ah, but that wouldn't be mutually beneficial, would it?

                                    Also, this didn't take long:

                                    Some federal employees who accepted Trump’s buyout offer are now being notified that their buyout has been denied, and they are being terminated instead.

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                                    • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                      GO BACK TO SENDING PIECES OF PAPER IN THE MAILBOX YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT /s

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                                      what the hell man

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                                      • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                        They could market shaving to women to increase razor blade sales, because now women employees would have money to spend.

                                        That makes zero sense. Paying people so they can spend a tiny fraction of it back to your company? Why not just keep the money in the first place?

                                        No, they hire them because they've run the math and realized it costs less to hire them than that it costs them in sales due to public perception.

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                                        Why not both?

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                                          Why not both?

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                                          Why not both what?

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