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Self-Driving Tesla Crashes into Wall Painted to Look Like a Road… Just Months Before Planned Robotaxi Launch

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  • quill7513@slrpnk.netQ [email protected]

    meanwhile our subaru has lidar for adaptive cruise control and emergency braking

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    I didn’t realize EyeSight had different versions, on the Solterra it looks like it is indeed LIDAR.

    My Crosstrek has the older dual camera setup for depth perception, it would not be fooled by a picture of a road on a wall… I’m surprised the Teslas are.

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      The thing is, we recognize a truck with stickers of a stopsign, while AI vision gets confused.

      Lmao would it be illegal to put a stop sign on the back of your car?

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      I was thinking the same thing. What would happen if you popped one out of the back of your car while driving in front of a self driving car on the freeway?

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      • elephantium@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

        I found this article. My takeaways were:

        1. No driving in bus lanes during certain times of day.
        2. No using the shoulder as a turn lane.
        3. No using a bike lane as a turn lane.
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        Wow

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        This post brought to you by American car centrism

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        • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

          Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

          Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

          The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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          This would be hilarious if it weren't for shitty cars causing deaths.

          That said, I always wondered why we don't find a system like RFID that could penetrate concrete and asphalt, and plant passive receivers in roads? We re-pave roads so damn often in this country (the U.S.) it seems like we could've knocked it out in the past couple of decades, minus our most rural areas.

          I know RFID itself isn't strong enough, but I imagine that would've been an easier problem than figuring our complete self driving. Not to mention making GPS a secondary system for U.S. road travel in most cases.

          Maybe it's just a dumb shower thought?

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            This would be hilarious if it weren't for shitty cars causing deaths.

            That said, I always wondered why we don't find a system like RFID that could penetrate concrete and asphalt, and plant passive receivers in roads? We re-pave roads so damn often in this country (the U.S.) it seems like we could've knocked it out in the past couple of decades, minus our most rural areas.

            I know RFID itself isn't strong enough, but I imagine that would've been an easier problem than figuring our complete self driving. Not to mention making GPS a secondary system for U.S. road travel in most cases.

            Maybe it's just a dumb shower thought?

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            I have another idea: echolocation and laser measurement.

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              I have another idea: echolocation and laser measurement.

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              I don't know the value of echolocation in this case, as I'm generally ignorant here, but it's straight wild to me that they went purely on visuals.

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                Wow

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                This post brought to you by American car centrism

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                Not sure what "American car centrism" has to do with Chinese traffic regulations tbh

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                  That's almost as bad as Sidewinder missiles locking onto the sun.

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                  To be fair, it is really hot...

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                    Not sure what "American car centrism" has to do with Chinese traffic regulations tbh

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                    I think their regs, while seemingly very basic rules of the road, are based because I live in the US and we have bike lanes here that just whole ass turn into turn lanes with almost no warning. I wish we could get basic decency for everyone on the road, too.

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                    • jeffool@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                      I don't know the value of echolocation in this case, as I'm generally ignorant here, but it's straight wild to me that they went purely on visuals.

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                      Tesla used to also have radar (and maybe lidar?) but they removed it as a cost cutting measure. If you ever see older videos of a Tesla slowing down or stopping due to a potential collision a few cars ahead, that's from before they switched to only relying on cameras. The collision avoidance was significantly better back then.

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                      • ? Guest

                        I have never seen a mural on a road depicting a road that is identical to the road that I am driving on. Hope that helps.

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                        Maybe someone should do a follow up experiment to see how different the "mural" would have to be for the car to recognise it. A human would obviously not fall for something like an artistic picture of a fantasy land, but would a Tesla?

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                          I have never seen a mural on a road depicting a road that is identical to the road that I am driving on. Hope that helps.

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                          Someone else had an interesting take elsewhere on the thread, and that got me looking.

                          Here is that mural you're looking for, it's in South Carolina, took me like 60 seconds of searching to find one so I am sure there are others: https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/tunnelvision

                          It's a mural that looks like a tunnel but is actually a mural.

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                            Except GPUs 😥

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                            I just abandoned and got myself an RX 6400 (my kids stole my PCs). Works well for Commandos and C&C 😅

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                              Was just thinking this

                              A single LiDAR sensor prevents this kind of issue

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                              Even RADAR prevents this and the cars had RADAR! They started disabling RADAR for the older cars since the new ones don’t even have the hardware installed.

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                              • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                                Someone else had an interesting take elsewhere on the thread, and that got me looking.

                                Here is that mural you're looking for, it's in South Carolina, took me like 60 seconds of searching to find one so I am sure there are others: https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/tunnelvision

                                It's a mural that looks like a tunnel but is actually a mural.

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                                Ha well done.

                                Not sure people will be using self drive around a car park but if that is the plan then I guess you Americans will have to white wash that kind of thing.

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                                  I have another idea: echolocation and laser measurement.

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                                  Echolocation is specifically audio based.
                                  Lidar is a similar technique, but much more accurate and precise.
                                  Project a grid of laser beam, read when the laser bounces back, you know the distance to that part of the grid.

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                                  • gmtom@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                                    Not even just his cars, he thinks the MILITARY, doesn't need radar and can just use cameras to spot and track stealth fighters.

                                    He's a fucking lunatic.

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                                    As an augmentation, the ability to spot and track objects visually would be amazing.
                                    But then planes just have to fly above 10k ft, and pretty much guaranteed cloud cover.

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                                      Things that happen when you rely exclusively on optical sensors, i.e. cameras. But that's just cheaper, more money for Nazi Elon.

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                                      Are we reeeeally sure optical sensors with fast image recognition software are cheaper than LiDAR?

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                                        I think their regs, while seemingly very basic rules of the road, are based because I live in the US and we have bike lanes here that just whole ass turn into turn lanes with almost no warning. I wish we could get basic decency for everyone on the road, too.

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                                        Ah, gotcha, yeah, that makes sense.

                                        My own city has pretty good bike lane coverage, but it's similar -- cars have to cross over the bike lane to get into the turn lane.

                                        Basic decency...gah. Yeah, I wish. 😞

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                                          Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                                          Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                                          The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                                          I remember elon saying something along the lines of his camera system being just as good and they thusly don't need to employ things like LIDAR.

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