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  • undefined@lemmy.hogru.chU [email protected]

    Forcing students to take notes is counterproductive: I was most successful in those classes in which I wasn’t forced to take notes. It only ever distracted me from listening to the teacher.

    Also, for foreign language classes actually being forced to speak the language in class is so valuable. I had one teacher who focused on big cultural projects with very little language instruction and her students (including me) all did pretty poorly.

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    Forcing students to take notes is counterproductive: I was most successful in those classes in which I wasn’t forced to takes notes. Taking notes only distracted me from listening to the teacher.

    I noticed more and more younger people thinking along that line. As an old fart myself, I will say I find this as worrisome as realizing the same younger generations are reading less and less books, even going to college.

    I will also say it's because most of those younger people were never taught the proper technique of reading and note-taking (grossly summarized, note-taking is not about trying to write what's being said by the teacher/speaker, it's about synthesizing the ideas/infos in one's own words, so in reality there is very little writing to be done when listening to lesson or a lecture (good lectures are built around a lot of repetitions of the same information, over and over again, so the speaker can be pretty sure most students did get it).

    Not being able to take-notes (and to read books) is a huge loss, for those kids. They should demand their teachers or their parents, or anyone that has learned it already, to teach them the technique but why would they even bother asking since they get no opportunity to realize how much they're missing out by not learning it? I'm sad for them, because they're the one being screwed up (compared to kids their age that do read and know how to take notes).

    Also, for foreign language classes actually being forced to speak the language in class is so valuable. I had one teacher who focused on big cultural projects with very little language instruction and her students (including me) all did pretty poorly.

    100% this. The only thing that should matter is to speak the language with as much excitement/fun/interest as possible. Even grammar, which is essential, comes second to that.

    edit: typos.

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      Lemmy is as much of a cesspool as Twitter, but left-tinted.

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        Schools should teach more practical subjects, they're more useful to loads of people and improve engagement. If they have to reduce subjects like history to do that then they should.

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        My late teens and early 20s would have been a lot less destructive if I had received even just a small amount of practical financial advice.

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          Aggresive leftifts confirm the right wing bias, creating an escalating dynamic.

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            Aggresive leftifts confirm the right wing bias, creating an escalating dynamic.

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            Yes extremists on both sides can be truly awful. Plus some people are just aggressive, it's nasty to deal with and really aggravated things

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              My late teens and early 20s would have been a lot less destructive if I had received even just a small amount of practical financial advice.

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              Yep, a lot of young people need advice

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                I think education should be demanding, so much so that we should all be fine with kids failing at it instead of blaming the school for it. I think grades should only and honestly reflect the level of understanding of each student on whatever they are supposed to be learning, not make them feel good about themselves.

                The school should not be there to make the student feel 'good' or 'understood' (that's the family's job). School main purpose should be to make them smarter, which is something that demands practice and efforts, like anything.

                Making them smarter means making them better equipped to deal with the real world, that is not a fairy tale kingdom filled with nice people and magical animals that will make them feel welcome and where they lived happily ever after.

                Instead of lying to those kids, the school should help them prepare to become an adult person able to face a not-perfect world with a not perfect population, and teach them how to use their effing brains to solve any of the many problems they will face in their life (personal as well as professional)—and for that making them study their lessons, aka memorize stuff (even stupid shit one will never use again) and having to do their stupid homework, and get a failing grade when they don't, is still the best and the simplest way to develop.

                Kids that are being told they're amazing perfect little creatures (they're not), and that they should never have to break a sweat in school (they should) are being lied to. Even more sadly for them, compared to those other kids that are still encouraged to face that they're aren't perfect angels and that they should put in the work, every single day, all year long, they're the ones being screwed up. Big.

                Feel free to downvote as much as you want.

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                  Yes extremists on both sides can be truly awful. Plus some people are just aggressive, it's nasty to deal with and really aggravated things

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                  some people are just aggressive

                  I'm starting to think that sadly they (were forced to?) carry more than they should

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                    Moral relativism and the postmodern position of 'nothing is true' (with the accompanying commandment not to think about anything too deeply because, again, no underlying truths exist) are now more than ever at the core of Western thought and the main reason that, despite the fact that the West has and continues to pillage and extract resources around the world thanks to their military superiority (and moral relativism plus a real belief in the racial superiority of Europeans) and probably enjoy some of the materially richer and safer existences ever, people in these countries have to pop pills/drugs/booze or turn the gun on their families and themselves to deal with their existences. The confusion is unbearable, and the lack of stable, productive, morally fulfilling ideology makes one aimless and prone to failure because the world and their understanding of the world are not compatible (can't make good predictions if your starting point is wrong or inexistent!).

                    I expect disagreement and even harassment on Lemmy/Western online spaces because, well, I know who I'm talking to. But doctors don't waste their time on the healthy! Travel a bit and go to brown places and you'll see what I'm talking about.

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                    I wish everyone had the opportunity to search for balance. The pills just extend how long you can carry the discomfort.

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                    • undefined@lemmy.hogru.chU [email protected]

                      Forcing students to take notes is counterproductive: I was most successful in those classes in which I wasn’t forced to take notes. It only ever distracted me from listening to the teacher.

                      Also, for foreign language classes actually being forced to speak the language in class is so valuable. I had one teacher who focused on big cultural projects with very little language instruction and her students (including me) all did pretty poorly.

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                      The trick is to take very brief notes and then write them out after class (when you still remember the details). Students should be taught to how to take notes (I was, they taught us to take notes and do research in the first year of university).

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                        The mismanagement of housing in the West is an insurmountable failure that cannot be recovered from. American workers can never become competitive, and birth rate decline is a terminal cancer with no cure. The cost of living is artificial but there is no way to reset the suicide switch that is the atrocity of housing mismanagement in most Western countries.

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                        Legislation.

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                          I didn't say get rid of, I said reduce.

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                          They don't teach enough history already. Reducing it would be a complete disaster.

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                            What would you reduce instead?

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                            Have different types of high schools instead. My cousin went to bakery school in Germany at 16, for example.

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                              Schools should teach more practical subjects, they're more useful to loads of people and improve engagement. If they have to reduce subjects like history to do that then they should.

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                              I really miss things like shop class existing. I would have thrived in that kinda stuff.

                              I don't wanna reduce history but more practical skills would be nice. Honestly not really sure what I'd change to bring things like shop class back, but I probably wouldn't want it to be history.

                              English maybe? Its massively important that kids learn to read and learn from books but I think formal grammar and whatnot have way too much emphasis placed on them. Ability to communicate effectively is affected by grammar, but you can communicate extremely effectively with "wrong" or informal grammar, which people generally intuitively pick up on. I'd rather more emphasis on practical communication- but then I'm not sure that would actually make more space for things like shop class. I dunno 😅

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                                People who complain about multiple once-in-a-lifetime events happened in their lifetime really are snowflakes.

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                                  I think there are too many people on this planet. I see often people stating that this is not the case so this is often something people are vocal about.

                                  Or maybe a more accurate way to briefly describe my point of view. I think there are too many people on this planet based on our current ways of consumption and destruction of resources. There may be an argument for a planet with over 8 billion people with the ability to provide food, shelter and all other aspects of life and social security that does not affect our environment so harshly and negatively but even then I just don't see it.

                                  With so many people, we seem to have lost the ability to our right to roam. Something that I think is important for multiple reasons. People used to migrate for a number of reasons. Seasonal changes, disaster, allowing areas to regrow and repopulate in regards to land and wildlife, travelling to where wildlife is excessive, planned/controlled fires and so many other reasons.

                                  When we settle into these large cities, we lose the ability to roam and ignore all the local environmental benefits of people roaming. The land has to be reshaped into providing for a constant, permanent settlement. The cities require outside resources to grow and maintain itself and it's much harder to see and understand the resource demand when we are no longer directly involved in maintaining the land. We are now focused on maintaining a city just for us humans.

                                  I think this point of view is scary or intimidating to some people because it means giving up many modern conveniences. As if life can not be lived any other way.

                                  I guess I also come from a point of view where I'd rather live a short dangerous life full of wonder compared to a long, sterile life of loneliness and resentful anger. Fuck borders, they are as made up as money, gender and religion. I want to roam and be free.

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                                    Make housewives (or house husbands, not gonna judge) viable again. Women in the workplace was a crummy deal all things considered.

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                                      I love Pineapple Pizza

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                                        As someone who's slightly center-right, a significant number of my opinions are unpopular on this platform. But setting politics and social issues aside, I'd say the nuclear bomb of my unpopular opinions is my belief in determinism - and, by extension, my claim that free will is an illusion.

                                        By that, I mean the idea that you could have done otherwise in a given situation is false. If we had a time machine and could replay a moment exactly as it was, you'd make the same choice every single time. Whatever caused you to make that decision the first time would cause you to do it again - without exception.

                                        A related belief of mine is that the sense of self is also an illusion. To me, these are two sides of the same coin. By “self,” I mean the feeling that there’s a subject behind your face, looking out at the world. But that’s just brain chemistry. There’s no point in the brain where it all comes together - no central “you” making decisions. That’s why there’s no free will either - because there’s nothing making the decisions. They’re simply being made.

                                        The illusion comes from the fact of consciousness. The fact of subjective experience. It feels like something to be you, from the inside. There’s qualia to your existence.

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                                          I think there are too many people on this planet. I see often people stating that this is not the case so this is often something people are vocal about.

                                          Or maybe a more accurate way to briefly describe my point of view. I think there are too many people on this planet based on our current ways of consumption and destruction of resources. There may be an argument for a planet with over 8 billion people with the ability to provide food, shelter and all other aspects of life and social security that does not affect our environment so harshly and negatively but even then I just don't see it.

                                          With so many people, we seem to have lost the ability to our right to roam. Something that I think is important for multiple reasons. People used to migrate for a number of reasons. Seasonal changes, disaster, allowing areas to regrow and repopulate in regards to land and wildlife, travelling to where wildlife is excessive, planned/controlled fires and so many other reasons.

                                          When we settle into these large cities, we lose the ability to roam and ignore all the local environmental benefits of people roaming. The land has to be reshaped into providing for a constant, permanent settlement. The cities require outside resources to grow and maintain itself and it's much harder to see and understand the resource demand when we are no longer directly involved in maintaining the land. We are now focused on maintaining a city just for us humans.

                                          I think this point of view is scary or intimidating to some people because it means giving up many modern conveniences. As if life can not be lived any other way.

                                          I guess I also come from a point of view where I'd rather live a short dangerous life full of wonder compared to a long, sterile life of loneliness and resentful anger. Fuck borders, they are as made up as money, gender and religion. I want to roam and be free.

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                                          Due to low fertility rates the population of earth will soon start to decrease so in that sense this particular issue is going to solve itself. Though that comes with a load of related issues.

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