Make it make sense
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Yeah, in theory it's great but every time I try it people just cut in front of me then slam on brakes causing me to have to brake then adjust then repeat ad nauseam. People suck.
Then leave another gap. There are finite idiots in the world, and you cannot actually go backwards.
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Hey I studied this in grad school for a bit, and it really is just "someone does some dumb shit which leads to a cascading wave of additional people doing dumb shit which propagates backwards for miles." Basically when the offered load is getting close to the maximum load, all it takes is one person aggressively changing lanes to throw that section of highway into gridlock, and it will remain that way until the total integrated traffic flux across that incident boundary again falls below the critical offered load inflection point.
Basically, pick a lane and just stay in it. Maintain proper following distance. Counterintuitively, the following distance should be for the speed you want to drive, so even in traffic it should be like 5+ car lengths even though you are going slow. This is because it reduces the offered load, and once that number falls below the critical point, speeds will increase again. Bumper to bumper traffic basically prevents that from happening because it dampens the ability for a "speedup" wave to propagate.
Of course this is all impossible for humans. All it takes is a few idiots to throw off the balance.
so even in traffic it should be like 5+ car lengths even though you are going slow.
Other drivers: "It's free real estate"
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People drive too close to each other, someone has to slow down and then the car behind slows down a bit more. Repeat until you get to the point someone completely stops. Then the next car stops for slightly longer.
If you leave a safe distance then it wouldn't happen.
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It all starts with someone in the passing lane, not passing, and one or more pissed off people behind them
The pissed off people trying to get around causes the wave of people behind them to brake and it snowballs from there.
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Traffic is a "thing" because the slowest common perambulator is always in front
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Reaction times of humans.
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You are thr traffic.
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A few years ago, I was bitching and moaning about a jam, and my pal just said "you're not in traffic, you are traffic".
I know it's nothing more than a cheeky soundbite but just reframing it like that and knowing I'm part of the problem rather than the exception has made me a lot calmer on slow moving roads.
Plus it has encouraged me to either use public transport more, or just drive to a park-and-ride a mile or three out, and run the rest - facilities permitting of course.
I still lose it when I finally get to the front of the jam, and the only reason for said jam is because everyone is stopping to look at an accident on the OTHER SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY.
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It all starts with someone in the passing lane, not passing, and one or more pissed off people behind them
The pissed off people trying to get around causes the wave of people behind them to brake and it snowballs from there.
Yeah I drive around 3 hours on the highway every several weeks. Sometimes on my drive, there's obviously traffic. A lot of times it will be something like rush hour traffic, a crash, construction, etc.
But then like...a good portion of the time when I come to the very front of the "clog", I find that it is just a blockade of multiple people going incredibly slowly and taking up all lanes of traffic, refusing to move over despite the fact that they are going under the speed limit.
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I still lose it when I finally get to the front of the jam, and the only reason for said jam is because everyone is stopping to look at an accident on the OTHER SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY.
Yeah, it's frustrating.
I'm not entirely sure what the rubberneckers want to see either. "Oh look, someone critically injured next to someone who is likely deceased", because that isn't a day ruiner at the best of times.
Odd.
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Traffic John is what they called him.
Johnny Jam to his mates, or J-Traffz to his record label.
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huh, they seem to get that concept on the highways i drive on. big state though, we could live ten hours apart from each other.
Haha true! I’m talking about Southern California. Los Angeles and Orange County.
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Which one of these is the "driving lane"?
The far right.
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The far right.
So, all cars in the far right lane unless they're passing someone in the far right lane, in which case they should be in the lane that's second from the right? All other lanes should be empty at all times?
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so even in traffic it should be like 5+ car lengths even though you are going slow.
Other drivers: "It's free real estate"
wrote last edited by [email protected]Secret is to play the game next to a semi. Some semis kinda do it too by engine braking as they see the wave approaching instead of waiting until theyre close to even slow
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So, all cars in the far right lane unless they're passing someone in the far right lane, in which case they should be in the lane that's second from the right? All other lanes should be empty at all times?
Yes. (If a lane is closed then the furthest open right lane)
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Hey I studied this in grad school for a bit, and it really is just "someone does some dumb shit which leads to a cascading wave of additional people doing dumb shit which propagates backwards for miles." Basically when the offered load is getting close to the maximum load, all it takes is one person aggressively changing lanes to throw that section of highway into gridlock, and it will remain that way until the total integrated traffic flux across that incident boundary again falls below the critical offered load inflection point.
Basically, pick a lane and just stay in it. Maintain proper following distance. Counterintuitively, the following distance should be for the speed you want to drive, so even in traffic it should be like 5+ car lengths even though you are going slow. This is because it reduces the offered load, and once that number falls below the critical point, speeds will increase again. Bumper to bumper traffic basically prevents that from happening because it dampens the ability for a "speedup" wave to propagate.
Of course this is all impossible for humans. All it takes is a few idiots to throw off the balance.
Yep! All it takes is one person braking, and then the person behind braking, then the person behind them, and eith each braking the overall speed slows down more and more. It creates a wave of traffic. The wave passes through. The starting point I think moves back further and further.
I think about it a lot while I sit in traffic.
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Exactly, it's entirely because the people in front of you are going slow.
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Yes. (If a lane is closed then the furthest open right lane)
So, you think traffic here would flow better if 4 lanes were completely unused, one lane was only used for passing, and everyone else was in the remaining lane? And you could achieve this without replacing the drivers with robots?
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So, you think traffic here would flow better if 4 lanes were completely unused, one lane was only used for passing, and everyone else was in the remaining lane? And you could achieve this without replacing the drivers with robots?
Yes, more lanes result in more traffic because there’s more lanes to cut across for each exit.
