Make it make sense
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I still lose it when I finally get to the front of the jam, and the only reason for said jam is because everyone is stopping to look at an accident on the OTHER SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY.
Yeah, it's frustrating.
I'm not entirely sure what the rubberneckers want to see either. "Oh look, someone critically injured next to someone who is likely deceased", because that isn't a day ruiner at the best of times.
Odd.
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Traffic John is what they called him.
Johnny Jam to his mates, or J-Traffz to his record label.
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huh, they seem to get that concept on the highways i drive on. big state though, we could live ten hours apart from each other.
Haha true! I’m talking about Southern California. Los Angeles and Orange County.
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Which one of these is the "driving lane"?
The far right.
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The far right.
So, all cars in the far right lane unless they're passing someone in the far right lane, in which case they should be in the lane that's second from the right? All other lanes should be empty at all times?
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so even in traffic it should be like 5+ car lengths even though you are going slow.
Other drivers: "It's free real estate"
wrote last edited by [email protected]Secret is to play the game next to a semi. Some semis kinda do it too by engine braking as they see the wave approaching instead of waiting until theyre close to even slow
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So, all cars in the far right lane unless they're passing someone in the far right lane, in which case they should be in the lane that's second from the right? All other lanes should be empty at all times?
Yes. (If a lane is closed then the furthest open right lane)
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Hey I studied this in grad school for a bit, and it really is just "someone does some dumb shit which leads to a cascading wave of additional people doing dumb shit which propagates backwards for miles." Basically when the offered load is getting close to the maximum load, all it takes is one person aggressively changing lanes to throw that section of highway into gridlock, and it will remain that way until the total integrated traffic flux across that incident boundary again falls below the critical offered load inflection point.
Basically, pick a lane and just stay in it. Maintain proper following distance. Counterintuitively, the following distance should be for the speed you want to drive, so even in traffic it should be like 5+ car lengths even though you are going slow. This is because it reduces the offered load, and once that number falls below the critical point, speeds will increase again. Bumper to bumper traffic basically prevents that from happening because it dampens the ability for a "speedup" wave to propagate.
Of course this is all impossible for humans. All it takes is a few idiots to throw off the balance.
Yep! All it takes is one person braking, and then the person behind braking, then the person behind them, and eith each braking the overall speed slows down more and more. It creates a wave of traffic. The wave passes through. The starting point I think moves back further and further.
I think about it a lot while I sit in traffic.
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Exactly, it's entirely because the people in front of you are going slow.
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Yes. (If a lane is closed then the furthest open right lane)
So, you think traffic here would flow better if 4 lanes were completely unused, one lane was only used for passing, and everyone else was in the remaining lane? And you could achieve this without replacing the drivers with robots?
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So, you think traffic here would flow better if 4 lanes were completely unused, one lane was only used for passing, and everyone else was in the remaining lane? And you could achieve this without replacing the drivers with robots?
Yes, more lanes result in more traffic because there’s more lanes to cut across for each exit.
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Yes, more lanes result in more traffic because there’s more lanes to cut across for each exit.
There are also more lanes for the cars to move forward in.
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There are also more lanes for the cars to move forward in.
Doesn’t matter as long as your exits aren’t bleeding into the highway.
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Yep! All it takes is one person braking, and then the person behind braking, then the person behind them, and eith each braking the overall speed slows down more and more. It creates a wave of traffic. The wave passes through. The starting point I think moves back further and further.
I think about it a lot while I sit in traffic.
I think the issue is more or less slow drivers. One asshole is going 60 in a 70 in the left lane which caused people to pass them which in turn cause the cascade from the maneuvering around the slow person.
Slow drivers are far more dangerous than people don't 10 15 over the speed limit.
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Doesn’t matter as long as your exits aren’t bleeding into the highway.
Ok, so you clearly don't understand human drivers. There's really no point in continuing this conversation.
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I think the issue is more or less slow drivers. One asshole is going 60 in a 70 in the left lane which caused people to pass them which in turn cause the cascade from the maneuvering around the slow person.
Slow drivers are far more dangerous than people don't 10 15 over the speed limit.
You are incorrect. You are the cause of the traffic jam lol, literally.
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You aren't solving traffic as an individual driver anyway. Sorry to burst everyone's atomized bubble here but that's complete nonsense.
If you manually maintain a large gap in front of you, everyone behind you becomes complete weirdos.
We could "solve traffic" by not requiring single occupant car drives to accomplish everything in our daily lives.
You’re quite literally incorrect and talking out of your ass
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Hey I studied this in grad school for a bit, and it really is just "someone does some dumb shit which leads to a cascading wave of additional people doing dumb shit which propagates backwards for miles." Basically when the offered load is getting close to the maximum load, all it takes is one person aggressively changing lanes to throw that section of highway into gridlock, and it will remain that way until the total integrated traffic flux across that incident boundary again falls below the critical offered load inflection point.
Basically, pick a lane and just stay in it. Maintain proper following distance. Counterintuitively, the following distance should be for the speed you want to drive, so even in traffic it should be like 5+ car lengths even though you are going slow. This is because it reduces the offered load, and once that number falls below the critical point, speeds will increase again. Bumper to bumper traffic basically prevents that from happening because it dampens the ability for a "speedup" wave to propagate.
Of course this is all impossible for humans. All it takes is a few idiots to throw off the balance.
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You’re quite literally incorrect and talking out of your ass
You're right of course, the reason traffic exists is because you, DancingBear, cannot be on every roadway in America at the same time.
Seriously dude, have you ever been in traffic? I'm not talking about a small slowdown on a one, two lane, or even four lane road. I'm talking about sitting on the 5 or the 101 in any of the multiple times it becomes a parking lot daily.
Manually maintaining a large gap in front of you is not solving that shit, and it's frankly ridiculous to suggest that it will.
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Hey I studied this in grad school for a bit, and it really is just "someone does some dumb shit which leads to a cascading wave of additional people doing dumb shit which propagates backwards for miles." Basically when the offered load is getting close to the maximum load, all it takes is one person aggressively changing lanes to throw that section of highway into gridlock, and it will remain that way until the total integrated traffic flux across that incident boundary again falls below the critical offered load inflection point.
Basically, pick a lane and just stay in it. Maintain proper following distance. Counterintuitively, the following distance should be for the speed you want to drive, so even in traffic it should be like 5+ car lengths even though you are going slow. This is because it reduces the offered load, and once that number falls below the critical point, speeds will increase again. Bumper to bumper traffic basically prevents that from happening because it dampens the ability for a "speedup" wave to propagate.
Of course this is all impossible for humans. All it takes is a few idiots to throw off the balance.
"Pick a lane and stay in it" leads to slow drivers blocking the left lane, no?
