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We are way overdue for an open source 2d printer

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  • L [email protected]

    Your own link says that as of 2017 assume all new printers print some form of tracking

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    Watch me buy a 1990s hunk of shit laser jet as big as my desk just to fuck with feds

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      Today my HP printer asked my for my GPS location, to allow me to scan a document. Like why? Why is it required to use a basic option?

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      Because NSA.

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        Found one after a minute of looking: https://hackaday.io/project/167446-diy-inkjet-printer

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          Today my HP printer asked my for my GPS location, to allow me to scan a document. Like why? Why is it required to use a basic option?

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          HP printers are shit, I don't want one even if you pay me.
          Buy a office-class B&W laser from Brother and never worry again.

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            Found one after a minute of looking: https://hackaday.io/project/167446-diy-inkjet-printer

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            That's very cool but not exactly practical for everyday use.

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            • R [email protected]

              That makes sense. If you’re going that route though you should be fairly safe patent wise I would think? Most of the dot matrix patents, if not all, have to be expired by now?

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              You would still need to explore patents. Just because patents exist, doesn't mean they are in use. I would not be surprised to find out that a company like HP would hunt down and buy any patents that could interfere with its profits just to prevent others from using them.

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                The dots that are used for ID are ridiculously small tho

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                They are, but by definition, the printer can print them. If your on linux or Mac it looks like it might be possible to write a filter to add to CUPS that would do it for every print.

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                  HP printers are shit, I don't want one even if you pay me.
                  Buy a office-class B&W laser from Brother and never worry again.

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                  I bought a brother color laser printer during lockdown, 4 years and it's never had an issue, and I have yet to change the cartridges. I'll never go back to inkjet.

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                    Today my HP printer asked my for my GPS location, to allow me to scan a document. Like why? Why is it required to use a basic option?

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                    To sell your location to the highest bidder. Duh. So ethical.

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                      Found one after a minute of looking: https://hackaday.io/project/167446-diy-inkjet-printer

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                      Here you go grandma! Your new printer!

                      https://cdn.hackaday.io/images/2047791626462783781.jpg

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                        Here you go grandma! Your new printer!

                        https://cdn.hackaday.io/images/2047791626462783781.jpg

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                        It works, but not at the level most people expect. Also, the maintenance seems a bit much still.

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                          HP printers are shit, I don't want one even if you pay me.
                          Buy a office-class B&W laser from Brother and never worry again.

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                          Yeah, if you don't print enough to justify a laser printer then you probably don't need a printer at all. Just go to the library when you want to print something.

                          Only suckers buy inkjets.

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                            To sell your location to the highest bidder. Duh. So ethical.

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                              Omg, this made me chuckle in the best way. This is the most accurate comic I've seen in a bit. When I got an IT job, printers were so alien to me because I hadn't had one in many years. They're stupid and I hate them, but what are you gonna do.

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                                  You would still need to explore patents. Just because patents exist, doesn't mean they are in use. I would not be surprised to find out that a company like HP would hunt down and buy any patents that could interfere with its profits just to prevent others from using them.

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                                  Why would you need to worry about patents on something that is free and open source

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                                    Why would you need to worry about patents on something that is free and open source

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                                    Patent infringement is about use, not price

                                    It’s total bullshit that stifles innovation but such is life in the USA. At least the period isn’t completely obscene like copyright

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                                      We would absolutely love an actual open source printer you can get off the shelf parts and maybe some 3d printing and just use normal liquid ink rather than some inkjet cartridges. And no not some janky 3D printer set up to be a make shift printer, like an actual put the paper in and stuff comes out kind of printer. Prompts for a scanner and copier combo

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                                      • K [email protected]

                                        Today my HP printer asked my for my GPS location, to allow me to scan a document. Like why? Why is it required to use a basic option?

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                                        Devil's advocate: was this on Android? Certain wifi/Bluetooth information requires "location" permissions.

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                                          Today my HP printer asked my for my GPS location, to allow me to scan a document. Like why? Why is it required to use a basic option?

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                                          Ostensibly, that's because the app wants Bluetooth and/or WiFi access so it can connect to the printer. Because you can use WiFi and Bluetooth to determine location (based on large crowd sourced databases of these data points that have been geolocated), the OS has to ask for location permission as well, even if you just need to see WiFi and Bluetooth.

                                          That being said, once they have this permission, I have 0 doubt they log the actual location as well...

                                          Mozilla used to run a free service for this, and collected that data in the background using mobile Firefox. A replacement is https://beacondb.net/, which is still building enough location data to become useful. Services like this aren't nefarious, they're actually really important in getting a quick GPS lock on mobile. Phone hardware actually have pretty poor GPS receivers, but if you can determine an approximate location prior, you get much better results, especially once supplemented with inertial measurements and snapping to mapped roads.

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