I know nothing about computers but this does not add up

[gerald_eliasweb@reddthat.com]

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[flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz]

This is MS we're talking about. Preview and Viewer are probably made by two different teams in different countries, sharing no code, and prohibited from communicating with each other, even if they know about the other's existence.

And famously they fired all QAs years ago so there's nobody to test before releasing.

[sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Webp is the worst format ever.

Never mind that:

• it supports transparency;
• it can be losslessly OR lossfully compressed;
• it's so efficient it can fit ẏ̷̛̀̏̎̇͜ǫ̷̼̰̳̹́̆̍̐͜͝ủ̷͉̱̻̤̬̯̈́ŗ̸̒ ̸̨̟͈̳͍̱̀̏̓m̵̺͎̋́u̴͇̥͍͐̇̀̇͊̌̚͝m̸̢̢͕̻̬͙̒͗̽͋͆̕͝ in less than 2GB;
• it can be animated;
• is more than capable of representing 1:1 any GIF image;

it sucks because the one image viewer I've ever had installed by the ubiquitous (= monopolistic) operating system everyone has by default doesn't support it.

[theoriginalthon@lemmy.world]

One leveraging the graphics engine from internet explorer the other using the graphics engine from ms paint 1.0

[shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works]

[oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

I just hate webp because it’s supported in a grand total of 2 programs so it’s just annoying to deal with

[thatguynamedzeus@feddit.org]

I use irfanview, VLC and jellyfin. no problems.

[grue@lemmy.world]

Is this a Windows problem I'm too Linux to understand?

Seriously, everything on my computer -- Firefox, Dolphin, Gwenview, GIMP, etc. -- supports webp just fine.

[daddledew@lemmy.world]

I imagine the two teams sharing the same desk through a hole in the wall like in Brazil.

[bodilessgaze@sh.itjust.works]

I work in big tech and this is my life. I envy anyone who thinks you're exaggerating, because that means they haven't experienced the joy of spending weeks trying to track down the team responsible for a bug and then months hassling them to fix it.

[tedde@lemmy.world]

Yes. As someone who uses both, this is a M$ problem.

[rinsechessbacked@lemmy.ml]

PNG is so fetch.

[jodanlime@midwest.social]

It's a codec issue. You can get the codec if your OEM paid for it, if not you can buy it on the MS store. It sucks but plenty of other codecs have had the same issue in the past on windows, mkv wasn't playable by windows unless you had a codec for it.

[thereturnofpeb@reddthat.com]

taking a screenshot can solve some of this problem

[undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch]

Look, I was a big fan of HEIF but these days I just want anything better than PNG and fucking JPEG and GIF.

[sga@lemmings.world]

I can almost guarantee that they would be using different things. usually you have simpler libraries to decode formats (almost 1 for each codec), and separate programs plug these libraries in to generate the output. previews do not have to be accurate and have to be fast, so a simpler program with just linear scaling or something, where as actual image would be complex which has to worry about accuracy.

still not a excuse to not have support for a free 15 year old format

[sga@lemmings.world]

avif is better than it in almost all ways, and jpex xl is even better than that (but not about gifs i think)

webp is essentially a webm file (which is mkv with codec restrictions(vp8/9 and ogg vorbis or opus))

avif is av1 encoded files in a webp like container (but not webm afaik)

jpeg xl is a format made specifically for images

[sga@lemmings.world]

yes, because we just have 1 good libwebp library

[darrinbrunner@lemmy.world]

We of the privileged Linux class.

Yeah, same here. No problem with webp on Linux Mint.

[gullible@sh.itjust.works]

Heif is fucking gargantuan. Gigabit internet would struggle with a wiki gallery of heif