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Pumpkin spice products are already in grocery stores in July

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  • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

    Oh I'm convinced that the demand for fancy booze is pretty much entirely marketing.

    First of all, wine is almost entirely judged by its packaging. Take Franzia, that extremely mid boxed wine, put it in a striking bottle with a real wood cork and a fancy or trendy looking label and people will start discussing bouquet and mouthfeel.

    Beer (and I will pause after typing this parenthetical to take a swig from my Red Oak Bavarian Amber Lager) tastes kinda like puke. Like orange juice after brushing your teeth. Fancy schmancy beers will taste like burned oatmeal, and the craft beer industry died and now there's just IPAs which taste like yesterday's grass clippings and the occasional "we're not as big as Budweiser" company making "Amber lager".

    As for spirits, vodka outsells fancy aged whiskies by a WIDE margin, and while flavors can be found in whiskey, a bottle of Pappy or Blantons or whatever ain't worth thousands of dollars, it's all just Buffalo Trace.

    I've seen footage of a restaurant where rich people pay hundreds if not thousands of dollars to have chocolate sauce poured into their bare hands from a gravy boat. I've heard this phenomenon explained by the axiom "poor people prioritize quantity, middle class prioritize quality, and the rich prioritize experience." So the best you're going to get is a $40 bottle of scotch, because a $40,000 bottle of scotch will be the same booze in a really, really complicated bottle.

    Have you ever had Johnny Walker Blue? It taste like ash. Johnny Walker Red is honestly a better experience, because it tastes like whisky. Johnny Walker Blue is more expensive because they tell you it is.

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    The difference (or lack thereof) between a 40 000$ bottle and a 40$ bottle really doesn't matter for this argument. 40$ whisky clearly tastes different from vodka or 10$ whisky, and if you can't appreciate that taste that's fine (as previously mentioned, many long-aged spirits do taste bitter to me), but don't make it out like people only drink 40$ whisky for reasons of prestige and marketing.

    I don't like any Johnny Walker, though, peaty whisky isn't really my thing. We were discussing cask flavors, not smoke/peat flavors, right?

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      The difference (or lack thereof) between a 40 000$ bottle and a 40$ bottle really doesn't matter for this argument. 40$ whisky clearly tastes different from vodka or 10$ whisky, and if you can't appreciate that taste that's fine (as previously mentioned, many long-aged spirits do taste bitter to me), but don't make it out like people only drink 40$ whisky for reasons of prestige and marketing.

      I don't like any Johnny Walker, though, peaty whisky isn't really my thing. We were discussing cask flavors, not smoke/peat flavors, right?

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      Maker's Mark, a mass produced basic bitch bourbon, was initially marketed with the tagline "It tastes expensive because it is." I say this as a whiskey drinker, it's pretty much all marketing.

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        Maker's Mark, a mass produced basic bitch bourbon, was initially marketed with the tagline "It tastes expensive because it is." I say this as a whiskey drinker, it's pretty much all marketing.

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        Why are you a whisky drinker if its all just marketing? Vodka is cheaper.

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          Why are you a whisky drinker if its all just marketing? Vodka is cheaper.

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          Because I fell for the fucking marketing. Duh.

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            This is why we need seasonal regulation goddamit

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            https://www.pastafariancalendar.com/

            Friday, July 25, 2025
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            These seasonal food regulations should definitely reflect the clearly-correct religious position and not some false religion's take on things.

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              I think various corporations are trying to make pumpkin spice a thing, but apart from that, not really.

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              Capybara for Lent!

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                I don't think I've tried any pumpkin spice food or drink (they aren't that common here), but I definitely want christmas sweets like gingerbread and spiced cookies available year-round - why eat cookies that are flavored with just butter, vanilla or chocolate, when you could have cookies with spices?

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                It's clearly the anticipation that gives it the flavor!

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                  It's clearly the anticipation that gives it the flavor!

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                  I bet it also builds character.

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                    It's dumb to take a super popular flavor off the shelf in the first place. Unless people don't actually like it, and it's some sort of commentary about people happy about fall coming around.

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                      I got Halloween candy at CVS today in June.

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