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  • G [email protected]

    Sorry for asking a question that might be google-able but is this worldwide? I haven't been on Steam lately and don't normally purchase adult content through there anyway so I feel super out of the loop.

    Also, why are they saying that adult content is not okay on those sites but they still work on actual adult sites? I'm just confused and the shit AI-generated articles I have found on this topic haven't really helped.

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    So it all has to do with the extremist movement to censor online content. The argument is that 'anybody' can access Adult content, even though most of the situations there are verification, filters based on age, parental controls, etc. Since these groups weren't gaining traction on the platforms (i.e. Steam) these groups started harassing the payment processors themselves. Because the processors don't want to be held legally liable, they threaten to pull the ability to process payments through those channels (aka no more Mastercard / Visa unless you give in to our demands). So this is all or at least largely in part due to the monopoly that these payment processors have on the market. Obviously if your business is strictly online and the majority of your money comes from transactions from Mastercard and Visa, you're going to do what they say lest you risk losing the majority of your business.
    As a side note there has been some progress made in Europe to break up that duopoly. I don't know a lot so do your own look up but there are other payment processing options. If you can, do your part and support those companies!

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      https://tech.lgbt/@Natasha_Jay/114931988834024218

      https://www.polygon.com/news/616835/visa-mastercard-steam-itchio-campaign-adult-games

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      Bring on the downvotes, but this is where crypto shines. No bullshit rug pulls by ancient payment processors.

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        Bring on the downvotes, but this is where crypto shines. No bullshit rug pulls by ancient payment processors.

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        Cryptocurrency will only be useful when we surpass capitalism

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          You can buy Steam gift cards with cash and redeem them on Steam.

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          That seems good. Though I wonder if there is a third party behind those gift cards and the transaction process from them. I suppose as long as it's not Visa it's a good option.

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            Bring on the downvotes, but this is where crypto shines. No bullshit rug pulls by ancient payment processors.

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            I'd use cryptocurrency but literally no one accepts it. Mostly because it takes 14 billion years to and a small rainforest worth of burnt trees process a transaction.

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            • knightly@pawb.socialK [email protected]

              Knowing the furries, we probably have agents in every one of those corporate data centers already. XD

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              If they really wanted to cause damage they could just instruct their agents not to turn up since they absolutely are senior IT staff.

              The whole thing would probably fall apart within about 2 hours.

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                How does one safely use cash over the internet?

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                You have to buy a fax machine. Then feed the notes in one at a time.

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                • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techS [email protected]

                  Calling Visa today for mine! I don't play those games, but I hate the precedent. It is not a payment processor's job to dictate what can and can't be done. (Now, I have worked FinTech for many years, there is a legit risk they are taking that the feds would blame them however -) it should be on the company selling the product itself, and any decent legal team at a payment processor would be able to handle it like a normal Tuesday.

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                  They don't really have this excuse though because the products that they are banning are legal in the jurisdictions in which they're banning them.

                  They've been really coy about this, they're really trying to push the idea that adult content is illegal and therefore it's totally nothing to do with them. It's the standard right-wing tactic of just blatantly lying in the vague hope that somehow it'll become true.

                  Is what these scumbags always do when they didn't really think it through and are now being called out on it.

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                    They need to have the rules to apply to furry and transexual porn as well; I'm sure nothing will happen to their security infrastructure.

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                    Jesus Christ dude what's wrong with you

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                      I'd use cryptocurrency but literally no one accepts it. Mostly because it takes 14 billion years to and a small rainforest worth of burnt trees process a transaction.

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                      Hey. Just FYI. That's all outdated now. Ethereum forked to use 99.9% less energy. (To a sustainable point). Several other coins have followed including Cardano. And transaction times on both are within minutes, sometimes seconds. (Whereas my bank takes days).
                      Though admittedly sometimes it takes an hour or two for a transaction to complete if there's a lot of traffic.

                      I buy a lot of stuff (not drugs! Wow!) through crypto - and payment processors aren't even needed. You can literally get a chrome extension to access your crypto wallet to pay for things directly. Which is why crypto is such a threat to payment processors and fiat currency. Because crypto is the same as basically opening your wallet for cash, throwing that cash at the screen, and that works to buy whatever's on it. Visa and Mastercard can get fucked.

                      Bitcoins original white paper was very specific: the point of crypto is to take the power away from the assholes like Visa and Mastercard. But also from Banks and the Fed. No one person or entity should control these things. So Bitcoin decentralized them.

                      And now, 15 years later, it works pretty fucking well. That's why the price has increased 1000%+ in that time.

                      (EDIT: To be clear, saying someone doesn't accept Bitcoin is like saying someone doesn't accept gold. You're using the wrong digital currency. There's plenty of others that don't need payment processors for transactions.)

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                        Bring on the downvotes, but this is where crypto shines. No bullshit rug pulls by ancient payment processors.

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                        You are 100% correct. The sooner people adopt crypto, the sooner Visa and Mastercard are pointless. To be clear: MODERN CRYPTO DOES NOT REQUIRE PAYMENT PROCESSORS - YOU CAN MAKE PAYMENTS DIRECTLY FROM YOUR WALLET. (And not just for drugs).

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                        • eightbitblood@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                          You are 100% correct. The sooner people adopt crypto, the sooner Visa and Mastercard are pointless. To be clear: MODERN CRYPTO DOES NOT REQUIRE PAYMENT PROCESSORS - YOU CAN MAKE PAYMENTS DIRECTLY FROM YOUR WALLET. (And not just for drugs).

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                          Yep, making banks completely useless. People are just tied to banks because they dont want to research or actually think about a new system of payments.

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                            I'd use cryptocurrency but literally no one accepts it. Mostly because it takes 14 billion years to and a small rainforest worth of burnt trees process a transaction.

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                            Transaction speeds are faster than credit cards and debt cards now. Not every coin is like that (bitcoin for example still takes forever, while Digibyte is less than 1 min).

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                              Cryptocurrency will only be useful when we surpass capitalism

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                              That's like saying violent revolution will only be useful once we surpass Fascism.

                              The wide adaptation of crypto would likely deal a killing blow to capitalism as all the bullshit fees and exploitation expected from transactions completely disappear - along with their revenue streams to capitalist overlords at Visa / Mastercard / Amazon / Google / Taxes for the Fed, etc.

                              Like, you can already start defunding the bullshit happening right now by just paying for stuff with Crypto.

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                                https://tech.lgbt/@Natasha_Jay/114931988834024218

                                https://www.polygon.com/news/616835/visa-mastercard-steam-itchio-campaign-adult-games

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                                Visa just reported a quarter above expectations. Not sure if the protests are affecting anything other than the wage slaves forced to deal with their calls and emails.

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                                  Visa just reported a quarter above expectations. Not sure if the protests are affecting anything other than the wage slaves forced to deal with their calls and emails.

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                                  Even if it is just the wage slaves for now, it won't be for long.

                                  The employees get a lot more work, that's for sure.

                                  However, by some stroke of good luck they haven't been reolaced by AI... For now at least. Which means they do something Visa/Mastercard want/need.

                                  That something just so happens to be replying to real questions. These protest calls take up their time (which is the point).

                                  The damage also encompasses those unfortunate to actually need the call center now, of all times.

                                  And if Visa/Mastercard can't react to real incidents properly, some might go to a competitor or they might be on the hook for contract breaches.

                                  Overwhelming the call center doesn't just affect the call center personell. It affects one cog in the machine (the call center), throwing the entire machine off-balance.

                                  Specifically, lower call throughput limits their ability to react to incidents, which is a critical day-to-day operation with potentially disastrous consequences. Middle management of the call center and a few execs are surely panicking as we speak.

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                                    Yep, making banks completely useless. People are just tied to banks because they dont want to research or actually think about a new system of payments.

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                                    Couldn't agree more! 🙂

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                                      Transaction speeds are faster than credit cards and debt cards now. Not every coin is like that (bitcoin for example still takes forever, while Digibyte is less than 1 min).

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                                      Oh a hold 60 seconds, well I guess my comment is completely redundant then because who could possibly process a transaction in less than a minute.

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                                        Or send them a drawing as payment

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                                        Thanks, i was one of the lucky ten thousand and am now a David Thorne fan.

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                                          tranny

                                          That is considered a slur, btw

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                                          My bad, I cant always keep up.

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