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Him being her boss is the scandal part. It's about power imbalance. There is no such thing as "consent" in this situation.
Combine that with the fact that someone commiting adultery should be disqualifying for them becoming president.
Look, I get that all the social norms have been completely ground to dust, but character does in fact matter. We should want a good person who refuses to cheat on their wife as a leader.
Reducing this to just a fun fling because you like the guy is the same thing the hypocrites who support Trump and all of his scandals do.
If he's willing to betray his wife for a quicky from an intern, why would I trust him with anything else? For the person who's leading the entire nation the bar should be higher.
Also not to mention that he was 49 and she was 22. If this was anyone less "likeable" than Bill we'd all be calling him an absolute creep. He was pushing 50, and she could barely drink. And he was her boss.
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Can we not make joke about Monica? She got horribly treated by the public while he is the only one who should have been punished.
She is fighting bullying and she is pretty cool for that.
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If only the media would cover epstein the way they covered this...
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Combine that with the fact that someone commiting adultery should be disqualifying for them becoming president.
Look, I get that all the social norms have been completely ground to dust, but character does in fact matter. We should want a good person who refuses to cheat on their wife as a leader.
Reducing this to just a fun fling because you like the guy is the same thing the hypocrites who support Trump and all of his scandals do.
If he's willing to betray his wife for a quicky from an intern, why would I trust him with anything else? For the person who's leading the entire nation the bar should be higher.
Also not to mention that he was 49 and she was 22. If this was anyone less "likeable" than Bill we'd all be calling him an absolute creep. He was pushing 50, and she could barely drink. And he was her boss.
Not that I'm defending him but I imagine they hadve an open relationship
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If only the media would cover epstein the way they covered this...
wrote last edited by [email protected]For all we know Murdoch, Bloomberg, etc are on the list. Maybe that's the angle we should be coming from here.
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Can we not make joke about Monica? She got horribly treated by the public while he is the only one who should have been punished.
She is fighting bullying and she is pretty cool for that.
Neither of them should have been punished? The joke is that America lost its goddamnmotherfucking mind over this. America is the joke.
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Not that I'm defending him but I imagine they hadve an open relationship
Having to bang only Hillary is a punishment deserved by almost nobody.
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Neither of them should have been punished? The joke is that America lost its goddamnmotherfucking mind over this. America is the joke.
Neither of them should've been punished? He was her boss, and decades older than her. He should've kept his pants zipped up.
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Having to bang only Hillary is a punishment deserved by almost nobody.
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Neither of them should've been punished? He was her boss, and decades older than her. He should've kept his pants zipped up.
DNC types get super cagey when you admit that Bill Clinton is a serial adulterer who was in an extreme power imbalance relationship with a woman in her 20's.
I'm glad the party is willingly offering him up as a sacrifice to the republicans to get keep the Epstein probe going. Every time the GOP tries a burying tactic, they truss Bill up like a suckling pig, and I'm fine with that. Dude is and was a creep.
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Can we not make joke about Monica? She got horribly treated by the public while he is the only one who should have been punished.
She is fighting bullying and she is pretty cool for that.
This guy's sexist af, don't expect better
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Neither of them should've been punished? He was her boss, and decades older than her. He should've kept his pants zipped up.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yea it's called consent. Not every power imbalance is automatically coercive. Society should be punished for being such prudes... they'd probably find they like it.
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Yea it's called consent. Not every power imbalance is automatically coercive. Society should be punished for being such prudes... they'd probably find they like it.
Not every power imbalance is coercive, but the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TALKING TO A 21 YEAR OLD STAFFER IS
In case you didn't consider that one
Gross, dude
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Not every power imbalance is coercive, but the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TALKING TO A 21 YEAR OLD STAFFER IS
In case you didn't consider that one
Gross, dude
wrote last edited by [email protected]She was a grown ass woman dude. This whole gen-z infantilization of 20 something year olds is ridiculous.
Like do you seriously not understand that women also find men attractive? /s
If she came out and said it was non consensual than colour me incorrect. Otherwise you're just being a prude like the rest of society that did the actual harm in this situation.
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When America had a president with a brain and had consensual extramarital sex with someone.
Instead of a brain dead orange bean bag for a leader who committed multiple sex offenses and is linked to offenses of rape and pedophilia.
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She was a grown ass woman dude. This whole gen-z infantilization of 20 something year olds is ridiculous.
Like do you seriously not understand that women also find men attractive? /s
If she came out and said it was non consensual than colour me incorrect. Otherwise you're just being a prude like the rest of society that did the actual harm in this situation.
I love that you think it's a generational thing.
And you call people who call out DRASTIC POWER DYNAMICS as prudes. Dude. Do you remember being 20-22? You know she JUST got the right to drink, right? Even if there was a personal interest in Bill Clinton sexually, the dynamic makes any sexual contact inappropriate while he's her boss. Don't tell me you think all those stories of 20-something secretaries sleeping with their boss were all consensual love affairs?
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I love that you think it's a generational thing.
And you call people who call out DRASTIC POWER DYNAMICS as prudes. Dude. Do you remember being 20-22? You know she JUST got the right to drink, right? Even if there was a personal interest in Bill Clinton sexually, the dynamic makes any sexual contact inappropriate while he's her boss. Don't tell me you think all those stories of 20-something secretaries sleeping with their boss were all consensual love affairs?
wrote last edited by [email protected]How do you not realize that your exact attitude is what the GOP exploited at the expense of Monica?
If y'all grew the fuck up she'd have zipped his pants and gone on to have a normal career.
People have sex. It's a thing we do. If everyone involved is a consenting adult than you don't get a say in it.
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Not American, ELI5?
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Not American, ELI5?
Bill Clinton, president from 92-2000, famously had an affair with white house intern Monica Lewinsky which included her performing oral sex on him in the oval office. The joke is that Lewinsky is under the desk.
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When America had a president with a brain and had consensual extramarital sex with someone.
Instead of a brain dead orange bean bag for a leader who committed multiple sex offenses and is linked to offenses of rape and pedophilia.
I mean, with that power imbalance I certainly wouldn't call that affair consensual.
