Age check
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Neither of them should've been punished? He was her boss, and decades older than her. He should've kept his pants zipped up.
DNC types get super cagey when you admit that Bill Clinton is a serial adulterer who was in an extreme power imbalance relationship with a woman in her 20's.
I'm glad the party is willingly offering him up as a sacrifice to the republicans to get keep the Epstein probe going. Every time the GOP tries a burying tactic, they truss Bill up like a suckling pig, and I'm fine with that. Dude is and was a creep.
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Can we not make joke about Monica? She got horribly treated by the public while he is the only one who should have been punished.
She is fighting bullying and she is pretty cool for that.
This guy's sexist af, don't expect better
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Neither of them should've been punished? He was her boss, and decades older than her. He should've kept his pants zipped up.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yea it's called consent. Not every power imbalance is automatically coercive. Society should be punished for being such prudes... they'd probably find they like it.
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Yea it's called consent. Not every power imbalance is automatically coercive. Society should be punished for being such prudes... they'd probably find they like it.
Not every power imbalance is coercive, but the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TALKING TO A 21 YEAR OLD STAFFER IS
In case you didn't consider that one
Gross, dude
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Not every power imbalance is coercive, but the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TALKING TO A 21 YEAR OLD STAFFER IS
In case you didn't consider that one
Gross, dude
wrote last edited by [email protected]She was a grown ass woman dude. This whole gen-z infantilization of 20 something year olds is ridiculous.
Like do you seriously not understand that women also find men attractive? /s
If she came out and said it was non consensual than colour me incorrect. Otherwise you're just being a prude like the rest of society that did the actual harm in this situation.
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When America had a president with a brain and had consensual extramarital sex with someone.
Instead of a brain dead orange bean bag for a leader who committed multiple sex offenses and is linked to offenses of rape and pedophilia.
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She was a grown ass woman dude. This whole gen-z infantilization of 20 something year olds is ridiculous.
Like do you seriously not understand that women also find men attractive? /s
If she came out and said it was non consensual than colour me incorrect. Otherwise you're just being a prude like the rest of society that did the actual harm in this situation.
I love that you think it's a generational thing.
And you call people who call out DRASTIC POWER DYNAMICS as prudes. Dude. Do you remember being 20-22? You know she JUST got the right to drink, right? Even if there was a personal interest in Bill Clinton sexually, the dynamic makes any sexual contact inappropriate while he's her boss. Don't tell me you think all those stories of 20-something secretaries sleeping with their boss were all consensual love affairs?
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I love that you think it's a generational thing.
And you call people who call out DRASTIC POWER DYNAMICS as prudes. Dude. Do you remember being 20-22? You know she JUST got the right to drink, right? Even if there was a personal interest in Bill Clinton sexually, the dynamic makes any sexual contact inappropriate while he's her boss. Don't tell me you think all those stories of 20-something secretaries sleeping with their boss were all consensual love affairs?
wrote last edited by [email protected]How do you not realize that your exact attitude is what the GOP exploited at the expense of Monica?
If y'all grew the fuck up she'd have zipped his pants and gone on to have a normal career.
People have sex. It's a thing we do. If everyone involved is a consenting adult than you don't get a say in it.
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Not American, ELI5?
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Not American, ELI5?
Bill Clinton, president from 92-2000, famously had an affair with white house intern Monica Lewinsky which included her performing oral sex on him in the oval office. The joke is that Lewinsky is under the desk.
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When America had a president with a brain and had consensual extramarital sex with someone.
Instead of a brain dead orange bean bag for a leader who committed multiple sex offenses and is linked to offenses of rape and pedophilia.
I mean, with that power imbalance I certainly wouldn't call that affair consensual.
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Not that I'm defending him but I imagine they hadve an open relationship
In 1997? From Arkansas?
That seems... exceptionally unlikely.
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You know it’s the 90’s because his pog collection is on display.
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She was a grown ass woman dude. This whole gen-z infantilization of 20 something year olds is ridiculous.
Like do you seriously not understand that women also find men attractive? /s
If she came out and said it was non consensual than colour me incorrect. Otherwise you're just being a prude like the rest of society that did the actual harm in this situation.
It's suspicious when someone has strong opinions about consent laws. But not as suspicious as someone who'd white-knight fucking Bill Clinton because, wait for it, their concern for young adults being treated with respect.
That math doesn't add up friend. Who do you think your fooling?
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It's suspicious when someone has strong opinions about consent laws. But not as suspicious as someone who'd white-knight fucking Bill Clinton because, wait for it, their concern for young adults being treated with respect.
That math doesn't add up friend. Who do you think your fooling?
wrote last edited by [email protected]lmao you sound like every time a 22 year old ever had sexual relations with a 49 year old you lost a neuron. And I don't feel bad for calling you out as stupid cuz you are grasping way harder to paint me as a predator.
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How do you not realize that your exact attitude is what the GOP exploited at the expense of Monica?
If y'all grew the fuck up she'd have zipped his pants and gone on to have a normal career.
People have sex. It's a thing we do. If everyone involved is a consenting adult than you don't get a say in it.
Consent in an imbalanced power dynamic is not always recognized as consent.
Sure, the girls that Louis CK jerked off in front of didn't scream and run out of the room, but they WERE placed in an inappropriate situation with someone who held the keys to their career. And what did we as a society do? We lambasted him for being weird and not understanding that dynamic, and his career has yet to really recover. He didn't rape anybody, no, but he sure did abuse his power over those people. Are these similar situations, in your opinion?
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When America had a president with a brain and had consensual extramarital sex with someone.
Instead of a brain dead orange bean bag for a leader who committed multiple sex offenses and is linked to offenses of rape and pedophilia.
Uh...Bill had a lot of frequent flier miles to and from Epstein Island.
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Neither of them should have been punished? The joke is that America lost its goddamnmotherfucking mind over this. America is the joke.
Remember Gary Hart? He had to drop out of politics because of a rumor of an affair.
Meanwhile... Margaret Trudeau is doing blow with the Rolling Stones at Studio 52.
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I mean, with that power imbalance I certainly wouldn't call that affair consensual.
Last I heard, Monica Lewinsky does, and her opinion matters more than any of our.
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Consent in an imbalanced power dynamic is not always recognized as consent.
Sure, the girls that Louis CK jerked off in front of didn't scream and run out of the room, but they WERE placed in an inappropriate situation with someone who held the keys to their career. And what did we as a society do? We lambasted him for being weird and not understanding that dynamic, and his career has yet to really recover. He didn't rape anybody, no, but he sure did abuse his power over those people. Are these similar situations, in your opinion?
The women with Louis CK said it was not consensual. Monica said she didn't understand how inappropriate it was, but it was consensual. That is the difference here.
And what did we as a society do? We lambasted him for being weird and not understanding that dynamic, and his career has yet to really recover.
To the benefit of absolutely fucking nobody; especially Monica.
Like not only did you guys embarrass yourself on the national stage, give fuel to the right wing media apparatus, subject Monica to a life of infamy, undermine the progress of your own administration; you guys accomplished fuck all for real victims of sexual violence ... or else why would you be bringing up Louis CK?
