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    Youre very welcome to hold your incorrect opinion but please do not try to ruin other peoples fun. You could also tell us why you have your still very wrong opinion

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    Perhaps they also fell asleep during the movies. I certainly know I did.

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      Lotr is overrated, there i said it

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      Even if you dislike the story, its impact on the fantasy genre is hard to argue against. I personally dislike the series too, but I refuse to call it overrated because it influences basically every aspect of modern fantasy writing.

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        Yeah me too. I'm just thinking it over when I can introduce it to my boy. He's still too young, but probably a couple of years. I think I was like 11

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        I kinda feel like kids these days are exposed to weird shit earlier than we were. I'd worry less about him being too young and more worried about the psychic damage you're gonna take when he thinks it's boring.

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        • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]

          I kinda feel like kids these days are exposed to weird shit earlier than we were. I'd worry less about him being too young and more worried about the psychic damage you're gonna take when he thinks it's boring.

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          I was worried he was going to be like that with Harry Potter. When I started reading it to him he fell in love with it almost right away. I have to cut off the time I spend on it because he'll just beg me to keep reading all night if I could.

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            Don't forget futurama and star trek

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              Connections 1 and 2. Maybe not 3.

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              Yeah, that one wasn’t nearly as good

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                I would add Kids in the Hall.

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                  I rewatched Mythbusters recently. It's pretty disturbing, especially in the early seasons, how often they use actual human remains for what is essentially light entertainment. Like, they'll destroy an actual human skull for shits and giggles. They had disproved the myth on setting off an airbag with a slim jim and firing it into the head of a would be car jacker, but still had to replicate the results, so just shot a slim jim into an actual human skull, cheering and laughing as it's decimated. That was an actual person's skull. How they sourced it, and where the source acquired it, who knows. I'm fairly certain there is a family somewhere though that would be mortified.

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                  I would be psyched as hell for my remains to be used on one of the most influential educational science shows of the era (plus like, that is a metal AF use for my skull). IDK, I know I'm not one of those people that venerates remains but even if I was, this seems like a grander memorial and contribution to science than having your remains parted out to then sit for years in a box in a closet, waiting for the physical anthro undergrads to do the "reassemble the original hands from this mixed up pile of phalanges" exercise for the umpteenth time.

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                    I would be psyched as hell for my remains to be used on one of the most influential educational science shows of the era (plus like, that is a metal AF use for my skull). IDK, I know I'm not one of those people that venerates remains but even if I was, this seems like a grander memorial and contribution to science than having your remains parted out to then sit for years in a box in a closet, waiting for the physical anthro undergrads to do the "reassemble the original hands from this mixed up pile of phalanges" exercise for the umpteenth time.

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                    The key distinction here is your will. The will of these people is unkown. Their consent is unkown. If you're looking at the skulls for sale on the bone room for example, they don't even know the specific age of most of the skulls and are forced to guess within a range. If they don't even know how old they are how can they know with any certainty the circumstances of their death? Where in the world can you just find an unclaimed skull to sell? What are the chances that these skulls aren't the skulls of poor people, or otherwise disenfranchised people? It doesn't take much imagination to draw the conclusion that the ethics surrounding the buying and selling of human skulls, and then destroying them for no other reason than the momentary entertainment of of the global 1% is at the very best a grey area.

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                      I would add Kids in the Hall.

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                      EEEEEERADICATOR!

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                        Lotr is overrated, there i said it

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                        Have to say I agree.

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                        • natanox@discuss.tchncs.deN [email protected]

                          Perhaps they also fell asleep during the movies. I certainly know I did.

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                          hey, falling asleep during LOTR is part of the fun

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                            Yeah but fewer people get the references

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                            They didn't get most references in the 80s/90s either... this is the reason why nerds seemed weird...

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                              Portal the game, or Portal the TV series from TechTV?

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                              Or Portal the Australian death metal band?

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                              • chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                Patrick. Leo was waaaay too pompous.

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                                I've spent the entire day wondering WTF portal variant is being referenced here. 😅

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                                  And the music of Weird Al

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                                    The key distinction here is your will. The will of these people is unkown. Their consent is unkown. If you're looking at the skulls for sale on the bone room for example, they don't even know the specific age of most of the skulls and are forced to guess within a range. If they don't even know how old they are how can they know with any certainty the circumstances of their death? Where in the world can you just find an unclaimed skull to sell? What are the chances that these skulls aren't the skulls of poor people, or otherwise disenfranchised people? It doesn't take much imagination to draw the conclusion that the ethics surrounding the buying and selling of human skulls, and then destroying them for no other reason than the momentary entertainment of of the global 1% is at the very best a grey area.

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                                    I think you have an incredibly romantic view of human death, and I don't particularly want to disabuse you of that. So in that spirit, I will spare you the full gory details of what happens to donated human remains / medical cadavers.

                                    Full Disclosure: In my personal collection I own a number of human bones (most but decidedly not all) given to me by the friend who's bones they were. I use the fingers as a fidget toy sometimes. Also, the persecution of cannibalism is one of the great crimes of the western world. I include these to amuse characterize myself and, hopefully by extension, my explanations below.

                                    To answer your questions:

                                    ::: spoiler If they don’t even know how old they are

                                    The reason stores like The Bone Room do not have personal or demographic information on the remains they sell is because medical cadavers are anonymized. The Bone Room respects that, even in cases where they have purchased bones with a known provenance, and the topic is extremely complex. In short however, this means that the morality of the remains being sold is almost entirely dependent on the reputability of the person selling the remains, and retailers are comprehensively vetted and monitored because of this (there are obviously exceptions, but they are immensely rare).
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                                    ::: spoiler [...] how can they know with any certainty the circumstances of their death?

                                    It is extremely rare for educational remains to be initially sold as parts (though there are of course examples where it did happen). In the wild and vast majority of cases, an individual bone is the result of donated remains being reduced over time through repeated dissections to the point that only the bones are left. Because of this, it is safe to say that medical cadavers are the most exhaustively inspected remains on the planet, and signs of foul play would undoubtedly be noticed (there are quite a few examples of this).
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                                    ::: spoiler Where in the world can you just find an unclaimed skull to sell?

                                    China and India were the sources of most modern medical remains, though both countries have stopped the export of human remains. While yes, I cannot deny that there were instances where questionable methods were used to obtain the remains (the term is 'anatomy murder'), I only know of two specific examples off the top of my head. The first is the Burke/Hare murders, which were committed during the early 1800s, and the second is the very famous Body Worlds exhibit (and hoo boy is that horrifying). Both of these were the impetus for sweeping global legislation to prevent similar situations, and Body Worlds is the primary reason China stopped exporting medical cadavers (because, and I am being uncharitable, it is hard to credibly deny your crimes against political prisoners when you ship the bodies of said prisoners to western countries with bullet holes in their skulls).
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                                    ::: spoiler What are the chances that these skulls aren’t the skulls of poor people [...] ?

                                    Aside from cadavers sourced from india and china (which again are no longer allowing the export of educational corpses), the remaining remains on the market come from legitimate pre-mortis consent given by the former owner of the parts in question. There are many, many examples of this - leaving your body to medicine/science is quite common in the US, and is an absolutely vital part of our medical infrastructure, and is generally considered a very noble choice to make. It is important to explain here that medical cadavers in the US are shown a degree of respect that can quite accurately be described as veneration, and disrespect of donated remains is emphatically not tolerated. And while US-sourced medical remains are rare to see sold outside of a medical context (US law is extremely strict on this matter), it does happen. I urge you to consider why you think this would not happen in other cultures, or why they would not have similar attitudes towards body donation and donated bodies.

                                    A specific example of a non-western attitude towards funeral practices (and oh boy is that a complex topic) would be memorial Japmala beads - a Nepalese tradition whereby Japmala (kinda like a rosary but for asian-originating religions) are made from bones donated to the temple by a (usually devout) person and are thence sold to raise funds. While done with consent, remains sourced from this practice are not infrequently sold for medical use on the condition that when the bodies are reduced to bones, they be returned to the temple. If some are removed, or missing (say, because they are a good example of some condition), or they were destroyed as part of their work, this isn't objectionable - so long as the remains are treated with respect, it's seen as benefiting the community as a whole.

                                    This does not specifically translate in this case, but I've included it as an example of ethical sourcing of remains that really does not gel with traditional western views on the subject.

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                                    And two brief points:

                                    ::: spoiler It doesn’t take much imagination to draw the conclusion that the ethics surrounding the buying and selling of human skulls [...] ?

                                    I can imagine a great many awful things, but that does not mean they are happening. This specific argument has really irritated me, in a way that I strongly suspect is unfair.

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                                    ::: spoiler [...] than the momentary entertainment of of the global 1% [...]

                                    Mythbusters began almost a quarter century ago, and has had an outsized impact on science literacy and education. I think it's unfair to characterize this as mere passing entertainment for the global 1% (and additionally it totally ignores the US' cultural hegemony). Although certainly not a traditional use of human remains, the fact that we are still having a discussion about the topic twenty years later as a result of the episode could easily be argued to be a sign of the great impact the show has had on culture in general and thus tautologically justifies its own existence.

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                                    Alright, hopefully that was less tiring to read than it was to write.

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                                      Youre very welcome to hold your incorrect opinion but please do not try to ruin other peoples fun. You could also tell us why you have your still very wrong opinion

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                                      God lotr fans are insufferable.

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                                        I would add Kids in the Hall.

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                                          STOP DOXXING ME!!!

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