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SteamOS massively beats Windows on the Legion Go S

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    #5

    Massively?

    Yeah there's improvements, battery and performance wise

    There's nothing massive here there is a decent bump in specifically the cyberpunk fps

    Edit: geez this single comment brought more people out of the woodwork to respond to me than anything else I have commented on lemmy

    I'm not even here arguing which one is better like come on now

    Massively is the wrong word to use it's that simple

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      Massively?

      Yeah there's improvements, battery and performance wise

      There's nothing massive here there is a decent bump in specifically the cyberpunk fps

      Edit: geez this single comment brought more people out of the woodwork to respond to me than anything else I have commented on lemmy

      I'm not even here arguing which one is better like come on now

      Massively is the wrong word to use it's that simple

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      #6

      I have to agree, it's better but not really massivley so.

      Title Legion Go S - SteamOS Legion Go S - Windows
      Cyberpunk 59 FPS 46 FPS
      Helldivers 2 70 FPS 65 FPS
      Doom Eternal 75 FPS 66 FPS
      Spiderman 2 63 FPS 64 FPS
      Witcher 3 76 FPS 66 FPS
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        Massively?

        Yeah there's improvements, battery and performance wise

        There's nothing massive here there is a decent bump in specifically the cyberpunk fps

        Edit: geez this single comment brought more people out of the woodwork to respond to me than anything else I have commented on lemmy

        I'm not even here arguing which one is better like come on now

        Massively is the wrong word to use it's that simple

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        #7

        About 10% fps bump and even bigger battery life improvement at the same time borderline justifies the title in my book

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          #8

          The evil of Microsoft is too great to resist. The only way to win is to deny it battle. And something about candles and cooking.

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            Massively?

            Yeah there's improvements, battery and performance wise

            There's nothing massive here there is a decent bump in specifically the cyberpunk fps

            Edit: geez this single comment brought more people out of the woodwork to respond to me than anything else I have commented on lemmy

            I'm not even here arguing which one is better like come on now

            Massively is the wrong word to use it's that simple

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            #9

            I mean, there is a bit of hyperbole here, the FPS aren't that impressive - but the battery life improvements are I think more in the ballpark of "massively"

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              I have to agree, it's better but not really massivley so.

              Title Legion Go S - SteamOS Legion Go S - Windows
              Cyberpunk 59 FPS 46 FPS
              Helldivers 2 70 FPS 65 FPS
              Doom Eternal 75 FPS 66 FPS
              Spiderman 2 63 FPS 64 FPS
              Witcher 3 76 FPS 66 FPS
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              That's still an average of over 10% FPS gains overall. Similar improvement to a new GPU generation, but on the same hardware. Sounds pretty massive to me.

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                I have to agree, it's better but not really massivley so.

                Title Legion Go S - SteamOS Legion Go S - Windows
                Cyberpunk 59 FPS 46 FPS
                Helldivers 2 70 FPS 65 FPS
                Doom Eternal 75 FPS 66 FPS
                Spiderman 2 63 FPS 64 FPS
                Witcher 3 76 FPS 66 FPS
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                Title Legion Go S - SteamOS Legion Go S - Windows Difference
                Cyberpunk 59 FPS 46 FPS +28%
                Helldivers 2 70 FPS 65 FPS +7%
                Doom Eternal 75 FPS 66 FPS +14%
                Spiderman 2 63 FPS 64 FPS -2%
                Witcher 3 76 FPS 66 FPS +15%

                Anything above 5% is significant, 10% on the same hardware IMHO classifies as massive

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                • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

                  I mean, there is a bit of hyperbole here, the FPS aren't that impressive - but the battery life improvements are I think more in the ballpark of "massively"

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                  Massive is a bit of hyperbole yes but gaining on battery and performance just by putting in the system is a lot remember that Steam OS also more configurable so it has more room to improve.
                  If that's not telling anyone with a surface level understanding that windows is shit nothing does.

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                    Massively?

                    Yeah there's improvements, battery and performance wise

                    There's nothing massive here there is a decent bump in specifically the cyberpunk fps

                    Edit: geez this single comment brought more people out of the woodwork to respond to me than anything else I have commented on lemmy

                    I'm not even here arguing which one is better like come on now

                    Massively is the wrong word to use it's that simple

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                    When it comes to battery life, SteamOS was yet again a very clear winner in this with even demanding titles like Cyberpunk 2077 having 1 hour 31 minutes on Windows and 2 hours 6 minutes on SteamOS. In less demanding titles like Dead Cells the difference is absolutely insane jumping from 2 hours 47 minutes on Windows to 7 hours 8 minutes on SteamOS.

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                      Massively?

                      Yeah there's improvements, battery and performance wise

                      There's nothing massive here there is a decent bump in specifically the cyberpunk fps

                      Edit: geez this single comment brought more people out of the woodwork to respond to me than anything else I have commented on lemmy

                      I'm not even here arguing which one is better like come on now

                      Massively is the wrong word to use it's that simple

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                      Improved in every category for the games tested, most results in 2 digit improvement while costing $130 less... that's massive by almost any angle you can frame it...

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                        I have to agree, it's better but not really massivley so.

                        Title Legion Go S - SteamOS Legion Go S - Windows
                        Cyberpunk 59 FPS 46 FPS
                        Helldivers 2 70 FPS 65 FPS
                        Doom Eternal 75 FPS 66 FPS
                        Spiderman 2 63 FPS 64 FPS
                        Witcher 3 76 FPS 66 FPS
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                        10% FPS gain, huge battery savings AND costing $130 less... that is massive

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                          Massively?

                          Yeah there's improvements, battery and performance wise

                          There's nothing massive here there is a decent bump in specifically the cyberpunk fps

                          Edit: geez this single comment brought more people out of the woodwork to respond to me than anything else I have commented on lemmy

                          I'm not even here arguing which one is better like come on now

                          Massively is the wrong word to use it's that simple

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                          Which one is cheaper?

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                            Improved in every category for the games tested, most results in 2 digit improvement while costing $130 less... that's massive by almost any angle you can frame it...

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                            It's insane to me that we're disagreeing about the word massive.
                            Rather than simply using it as the English definition.....

                            We're using the hype culture definition of massive.
                            Bro get over yourself. The improvements are NOT massive, fps or battery wise.

                            They are better and possibly even TONY THE TIGER GREAT. Massive is the size of your mom's ass, not these gains based on a different OS.

                            Also I respect all mothers but I couldn't help but use a dumb joke to make my point.

                            And last but not least.... Go make this argument about price and or Linux to anybody that needs convincing. Because it's not me man. I have a Linux rig. I also have a Mac OS and a Windows (gasp) 11 laptop because i code, make music, and play games. Sometimes I just browse the web for fun

                            By the way guess which OS is least compatible with the many different softwares I use for these purposes? It's Linux.

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                              This quick video from The Phawx seems to show that the battery performance difference isn't actually inherent to Windows, but rather that the GPU drivers don't throttle down the TDP when they should.

                              https://youtu.be/7gzkKL-axCM

                              Windows has plenty of other issues but it seems any frustration about this specifically should be pointed at AMD.

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                                Massively?

                                Yeah there's improvements, battery and performance wise

                                There's nothing massive here there is a decent bump in specifically the cyberpunk fps

                                Edit: geez this single comment brought more people out of the woodwork to respond to me than anything else I have commented on lemmy

                                I'm not even here arguing which one is better like come on now

                                Massively is the wrong word to use it's that simple

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                                The response here is mild and some people are agreeing with you

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                                  Massively?

                                  Yeah there's improvements, battery and performance wise

                                  There's nothing massive here there is a decent bump in specifically the cyberpunk fps

                                  Edit: geez this single comment brought more people out of the woodwork to respond to me than anything else I have commented on lemmy

                                  I'm not even here arguing which one is better like come on now

                                  Massively is the wrong word to use it's that simple

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                                  Yes. Massively. And I don't know why you're doubling down on being wrong.

                                  12% faster with anywhere from 34% to 320% better battery life, and $130 cheaper is massively better, especially on the exact same hardware.

                                  The difference is astonishing, tbh. I'd have expected a negligible difference.

                                  Massively better was completely correct, and you are wrong to state otherwise. It's that simple.

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                                    It's insane to me that we're disagreeing about the word massive.
                                    Rather than simply using it as the English definition.....

                                    We're using the hype culture definition of massive.
                                    Bro get over yourself. The improvements are NOT massive, fps or battery wise.

                                    They are better and possibly even TONY THE TIGER GREAT. Massive is the size of your mom's ass, not these gains based on a different OS.

                                    Also I respect all mothers but I couldn't help but use a dumb joke to make my point.

                                    And last but not least.... Go make this argument about price and or Linux to anybody that needs convincing. Because it's not me man. I have a Linux rig. I also have a Mac OS and a Windows (gasp) 11 laptop because i code, make music, and play games. Sometimes I just browse the web for fun

                                    By the way guess which OS is least compatible with the many different softwares I use for these purposes? It's Linux.

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                                    I think it's all a matter of perspective.

                                    In absolute terms, these differences aren't very significant (with maybe the exception of the 2 hours to 7 hours battery life improvement in that one specific game). But in relative terms, especially when considering that these games are not native to Linux, that these degrees of improvement typically only happen after a hardware upgrade, and that these improvements are available on the same device as the Windows version, but for $130 USD cheaper, it all adds up to something significant. In my opinion, the word "massive" is appropriate.

                                    I'm sorry to hear that Linux has been the least compatible for your uses. It's certainly not for everyone, but you at least have a plethora of alternative options at your disposal. I don't understand why you're making such a big deal about the manner in which other people are describing these improvements when clearly none of this applies to you.

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                                      I think it's all a matter of perspective.

                                      In absolute terms, these differences aren't very significant (with maybe the exception of the 2 hours to 7 hours battery life improvement in that one specific game). But in relative terms, especially when considering that these games are not native to Linux, that these degrees of improvement typically only happen after a hardware upgrade, and that these improvements are available on the same device as the Windows version, but for $130 USD cheaper, it all adds up to something significant. In my opinion, the word "massive" is appropriate.

                                      I'm sorry to hear that Linux has been the least compatible for your uses. It's certainly not for everyone, but you at least have a plethora of alternative options at your disposal. I don't understand why you're making such a big deal about the manner in which other people are describing these improvements when clearly none of this applies to you.

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                                      Btw I love Linux

                                      I just think a lot of the discussion here gets lost because of the memes I guess?

                                      Okay that's fair. I disagree with the word "massive" being used here but that's my right to do so etc etc.

                                      To better answer your question: (stream of thought consciousness narrated into my phone so be forewarned)

                                      Because I never brought price into the equation but other people love to start moving the goal post when all I said was massive is not the right word here.

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                                        Yes. Massively. And I don't know why you're doubling down on being wrong.

                                        12% faster with anywhere from 34% to 320% better battery life, and $130 cheaper is massively better, especially on the exact same hardware.

                                        The difference is astonishing, tbh. I'd have expected a negligible difference.

                                        Massively better was completely correct, and you are wrong to state otherwise. It's that simple.

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                                        You care so much about glorifying linux everything else falls away.

                                        In one specific game the battery life is much much better. In that one specific use case the word "massive" is used aptly.

                                        All the other minor improvements are just that minor. Bud you saying that I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong.

                                        And of course the vice versa applies.

                                        How I KNOW this is not a normal discussion..... Who the hell brought up price? Certainly not me

                                        Please continue to talk about random shit I never mentioned. I don't care. you do you

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                                          The response here is mild and some people are agreeing with you

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                                          To be completely honest, I am a little annoyed about all the people bringing up price.

                                          .... yo I agree too but we're talking about performance here not price.

                                          And saying that the price being free adds to the word "massive" being used aptly is just kinda dumb for real.

                                          Anyway I'm going to turn off notifications for this comment.
                                          You're correct that I'm probably being extra here. Well, you implied it but it's true.
                                          It's just like people don't want to converse man. Thought we came out here that this part of the internet because we could actually talk about things, not say "no u"

                                          and I'm definitely frustrated that I've been making comments for quite a while and the most engagement is when I barely say something not even negative about Linux.

                                          Idk man. Have a nice day

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