SteamOS massively beats Windows on the Legion Go S
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I mean that'd be neat if I gave a fuck about handhelds in general or the Legion Go S specifically. I don't. How does SteamOS do on my AMD 7950X3D with my 4090? Oh it doesn't support those? Then it can fuck off (for now).
I mean they've done a good thing in general but it requires such special hardware that it doesn't really deserve much praise. The whole attraction of Windows originally wasn't just "it has a GUI" it was, "I can buy a printer that works with Windows and a piece of software that works with Windows, and know that I will be able to print from that software, and so forth. Without that level of hardware support, SteamOS just isn't that exciting. Again, "Yet".
Funny you say that because printers work on Linux out of the box whereas on windows you need to hunt for drivers...
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I mean that'd be neat if I gave a fuck about handhelds in general
It kinda sounds like this isn't a product for you, then...and that's fine, but like, why comment haha.
Because it would have gone unnoticed if it was posted in a thread about how good windows is (those exist, right? Eh, right?) and wouldn't have gotten all this attention.
I will never understand this need for being noticed.
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Can we install this on PC yet? Sick of windows and all I do in my desktop is gaming via steam
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Can we install this on PC yet? Sick of windows and all I do in my desktop is gaming via steam
You.... can just install the steam client on just about any Linux distro?
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Installing SteamOS on other devices
We are continually working to improve compatibility with other devices. Currently, expanded support includes devices with AMD hardware and an NVME drive, targeted toward handheld devices. Please note, support for all devices that is not officially 'Powered by SteamOS' is not final (currently anything that is not a Steam Deck or Legion Go S)
I'm not sure if it would actually work, but steamOS isn't the same as steam. I'm assuming it's mostly just a matter of what drivers are included by default.
steamOS isn’t the same as steam
That's precisely why I said " Steam work on these? Doesn’t Proton work on these? Doesn’t KDE Plasma work" rather than just Steam.
IMHO the biggest component of the whole setup isn't Steam itself (which is convenient to get games, manages saves, etc) or KDE Plasma (which is a nice UI) but rather Proton. None of that would work without the compatibility layer and it goes beyond Wine including thanks to all the community feedback from e.g. ProtonDB.
So I agree, SteamOS isn't Steam but that's anyway not what I suggested.
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steamOS isn’t the same as steam
That's precisely why I said " Steam work on these? Doesn’t Proton work on these? Doesn’t KDE Plasma work" rather than just Steam.
IMHO the biggest component of the whole setup isn't Steam itself (which is convenient to get games, manages saves, etc) or KDE Plasma (which is a nice UI) but rather Proton. None of that would work without the compatibility layer and it goes beyond Wine including thanks to all the community feedback from e.g. ProtonDB.
So I agree, SteamOS isn't Steam but that's anyway not what I suggested.
How does SteamOS do on my AMD 7950X3D with my 4090? Oh it doesn’t support those?
So I agree, SteamOS isn’t Steam but that’s anyway not what I suggested.
Sure, but the person you quoted was specifically talking about steamOS. You bringing up steam/proton/kde plasma was out of place.
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I mean that'd be neat if I gave a fuck about handhelds in general or the Legion Go S specifically. I don't. How does SteamOS do on my AMD 7950X3D with my 4090? Oh it doesn't support those? Then it can fuck off (for now).
I mean they've done a good thing in general but it requires such special hardware that it doesn't really deserve much praise. The whole attraction of Windows originally wasn't just "it has a GUI" it was, "I can buy a printer that works with Windows and a piece of software that works with Windows, and know that I will be able to print from that software, and so forth. Without that level of hardware support, SteamOS just isn't that exciting. Again, "Yet".
I actually think that is a fair point you make. I am waiting patiently for a full version that I can install on a living room pc. So for me there is also no immediate benefit, yet, as you put it.
I still see the development very positively! -
Can we install this on PC yet? Sick of windows and all I do in my desktop is gaming via steam
Just install Bazzite on your PC
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Can we install this on PC yet? Sick of windows and all I do in my desktop is gaming via steam
I've been running a restore image for a few months and it's great!
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How does SteamOS do on my AMD 7950X3D with my 4090? Oh it doesn’t support those?
So I agree, SteamOS isn’t Steam but that’s anyway not what I suggested.
Sure, but the person you quoted was specifically talking about steamOS. You bringing up steam/proton/kde plasma was out of place.
Please explain what you believe are the core constituent of SteamOS if they are not Steam, Proton and KDE Plasma?
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I actually think that is a fair point you make. I am waiting patiently for a full version that I can install on a living room pc. So for me there is also no immediate benefit, yet, as you put it.
I still see the development very positively!As someone who has seen Linux as "almost there" for about 25 years, I am cautiously optimistic.
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Can we install this on PC yet? Sick of windows and all I do in my desktop is gaming via steam
Isn't it just a stripped down arch variant?
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Can we install this on PC yet? Sick of windows and all I do in my desktop is gaming via steam
Probably, but this is more likely Windows being shit on lower end hardware, doing a lot of background crap that has no place on a handheld gaming device.
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You care so much about glorifying linux everything else falls away.
In one specific game the battery life is much much better. In that one specific use case the word "massive" is used aptly.
All the other minor improvements are just that minor. Bud you saying that I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong.
And of course the vice versa applies.
How I KNOW this is not a normal discussion..... Who the hell brought up price? Certainly not me
Please continue to talk about random shit I never mentioned. I don't care. you do you
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I'm not glorifying shit, I'm just pointing out how very, very wrong you are.
A 12% performance boost on average, simultaneously with a battery life improvement of up to 320%, requiring nothing but a software change is massive, especially when that software is free.
Who the hell brought up price? Certainly not me
Are you purposely being a clown? I brought up price, because it's relevant in comparing two things.
Why are you so butt hurt that SteamOS is massively better on some handheld you probably don't even own? Why are you so hurt by this news?
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It's pretty clear that talking to you is useless.
You're not gonna make me bad by calling me names lmao.
It's pretty clear that talking to you is useless
Indeed. You do seem to struggle with differing opinions, as well as the definitions of words, like how you struggle to understand there's a massive difference in performance between Windows and SteamOS on this handheld.
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To be completely honest, I am a little annoyed about all the people bringing up price.
.... yo I agree too but we're talking about performance here not price.
And saying that the price being free adds to the word "massive" being used aptly is just kinda dumb for real.
Anyway I'm going to turn off notifications for this comment.
You're correct that I'm probably being extra here. Well, you implied it but it's true.
It's just like people don't want to converse man. Thought we came out here that this part of the internet because we could actually talk about things, not say "no u"and I'm definitely frustrated that I've been making comments for quite a while and the most engagement is when I barely say something not even negative about Linux.
Idk man. Have a nice day
wrote on last edited by [email protected]To be completely honest, I am a little annoyed about all the people bringing up price.
Well I'm so sorry you're offended (not really), but price is relevent when you're comparing products.
If I was looking at a comparison between two watches and the reviewer brings up price, I'd consider that relevant information.
saying that the price being free adds to the word "massive" being used aptly is just kinda dumb for real.
Again, you're just so wrong.
If product A is better than product B, that's bad enough. If product A also happens to be free while product B costs over $100, then that's extremely notable and should be brought up in a comparison.
Maybe it's your line of thinking that's just kinda dumb for real?
It's just like people don't want to converse man.
You're such a victim. Oh wait, it's you that started being hostile and dismissive. You're the one who doesn't want to have a respectful discussion.
When you talk like that, you shouldn't expect people to treat you nicely in return. People are under no obligation to treat you nicely after you treat them poorly.
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I have to agree, it's better but not really massivley so.
Title Legion Go S - SteamOS Legion Go S - Windows Cyberpunk 59 FPS 46 FPS Helldivers 2 70 FPS 65 FPS Doom Eternal 75 FPS 66 FPS Spiderman 2 63 FPS 64 FPS Witcher 3 76 FPS 66 FPS 12% faster on average, with anywhere from a 30-320% battery life improvement.
Just from a software change.
That is massive. You'd usually need a hardware upgrade for an improvement like that.
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I don't believe I edited any of my comments today but maybe I guess? In that same vein, did I say anything like "it's that simple". I did go back and read my comments just to be sure etc etc. I of course believe I'm correct (5-10% average performance/battery gains) don't count as massive.
We were talking about performance but now price is part of the package for some reason?
So many people responded to me and at least half of the responses had to with price and how that's massive!!
Anyways nah it's all good. It was annoying as heck earlier. But then I logged off lol. North worth the hassle
Cool beans, I hope you're having a nice evening by this point.
It's massive because of context. Massive is inherently a comparative term. Something can't be large or significant unless something else is small. Here the context is performance gains (in comparison to other forms of PC gaming) constrained by 1) being on exactly the same hardware 2) a sizeable price difference between the two options.
Here the performance gains are 10+% for a device which costs more than 10% less. The size of the performance gains in the handheld market would otherwise need you to buy a new handheld, and those fps increases would demand spending at least a few hundred bucks on a new GPU.
So massive performance gains with the implied context is absolutely true.
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Just install Bazzite on your PC
I thought that was a porn site... Never mind
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12% faster on average, with anywhere from a 30-320% battery life improvement.
Just from a software change.
That is massive. You'd usually need a hardware upgrade for an improvement like that.
I didn't read the whole article and mostly looked at the table. 12% is a number I would describe as a huge difference, but combined with the battery life I have to agree that it is indeed a massive difference.
