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  • nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.deN [email protected]

    At the very least you can still pay a small one-time fee for the DWD WarnWetter app (or enter a code for firefighters).

    Best 3€ I've ever spent purely out of spite, even if the reason behind it is complete BS.

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    They sometimes hand out codes "to be used only by firefighters and paramedics, wink wink".

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      All those "apps" are websites. You could say NFC is special, but so is gps.

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      To be fair, a lot of those depend on some client side trust. Which is conceptually stupid, but it is the way it is.

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        I can't even get people to switch to LibreOffice, not cuz they use some advanced MS Office feature but because the interface "looks dated". So they'd rather pay a subscription for life to use software that spies on them than download free software that does what they need but has a 2010s style interface.

        Humans suck so much.

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        because the interface “looks dated”.

        The real issue is M$ intentionally not following standards, so that opening an Office doc may or may not properly render in other suites. Hooray for EEE. Fuckers.

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        • E [email protected]

          I finally want to switch to android and boom: Custom ROMs and "sideloading" gets swept off the platter. Well ok I guess I‘ll just wait for a good linux mobile OS

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          PostmarketOS

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            I'm getting really sick of products being only available subsidized by a level of invasiveness that should be illegal.

            The government should need an individualized warrant to purchase my data. And honestly Google should need one to collect it

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            I’m getting really sick of products being only available subsidized by a level of invasiveness that should be illegal.

            You mean like smart TVs?

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              #208

              Not only we have basic right taken from us, the available software made by corporations is much buggier and less usable than ever. I am grateful that I am actually going away from tech/IT and pursuing other hobbies/interests, because I am less frustrated that way.

              And I've decided to switch to Linux (Debian with KDE btw), because aside from its learning curve, it's much easier to manage than Windows installation.

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              • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

                Considering:

                A) You can still install any app you want beyond the Play Store (the rule is that developers need to get all their apps signed, and doesn't effect the end user technically)

                And

                B) Its most likely being done because of the EU, it's a part of the DSA (https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/digital-services-act_en). The "trader status", and other parts against illegal content)

                The EU most like has already set them straight and this is the result.

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                Signed by who? Google? If so how does that not basically give them a monopoly on what can be installed?

                And what about privacy? If somone wants to build an app to help whistleblowers, they have to expose themselves to a shady shitty mega Corp like Google?

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                • B [email protected]

                  The number of people I encounter, even on Lemmy, that genuinely believe and rigorously argue that being able to install or distribute software on devices you own is actually bad because “security” is beyond horrifying to me. They have been brainwashed into thinking that corporate monopolies are not only acceptable but desirable because you can completely and blindly trust Mom’s Old Fashioned Robot Oil to make all your decisions for you, for a modest fee and no opting out, of course.

                  This is why society is collapsing.

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                  Dude, I've been fighting this fight for over 10 years starting on reddit.

                  The amount of people, even supposedly?!? tech savy people that bootlick and excuse corporate behaviour is maddening. To the point makes you want to be conspiratorial and think they are saboteurs.

                  What I will never EVER understand is being loyal and "loving" a company. No matter if it's Apple, Samsung, Google they ARE NOT your friends. In fact they are the exact opposite and will make your life worse if it means they can squeeze an extra cent out of you.

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                    Source:
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                      They can piss off, there is no way I'm dowloading Google's ad ridden garbage apps of of their store. I'd rather stop using mobile phones alltogether

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                        They can piss off, there is no way I'm dowloading Google's ad ridden garbage apps of of their store. I'd rather stop using mobile phones alltogether

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                        Same. Or keeping a shitty one around just for emergencies

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                          Signed by who? Google? If so how does that not basically give them a monopoly on what can be installed?

                          And what about privacy? If somone wants to build an app to help whistleblowers, they have to expose themselves to a shady shitty mega Corp like Google?

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                          Also why? Every other week there is some article about malicious apps leaking into the playstore. If they can't even control their own store, why would they police everything.

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                          • iavicenna@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                            I am not sure if enhanced (and force-fed) security features are the main problems here. Monopolies, spying and not having easily accessible alternatives (easy from the perspective of a more average user) are the main problems. Because google and apple are monopolies, most security critical apps like banking apps (that you unfortunately need now a days) don't support alternative OSs which also feedbacks the monopoly. Otherwise I am fine if some people opt for a phone that is basically a locked black box for them so long as there are other alternatives (including those which are still super secure/locked but does not spy).

                            It is much more crazy to me that you have to fight your device so that it does not sneakily do something that you don't want it to do (like install AI out of the blue or use data for mapping your habits). And most average users won't give this fight and that is what these companies really count on.

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                            Do some banks not have websites anymore?

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                            • corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                              Do some banks not have websites anymore?

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                              They do but they focus so much on their apps that apps are becoming more practical than the websites to use for small tasks. They are even trying to usher people to use their apps for seed generators. And some other stuff like seeing instantly how much money was withdrawn from your account after a purchase only is useful with a phone app notification. Other "digital banks" like revolut or monzo simply does not exists outside of the app world and in terms of exchange rates and what not, they simply have no competition if you travel couple times a year.

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                              • merc@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                                I think your parents should turn on their parental controls because you're going a bit wild, buddy.

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                                oh don't worry daddy google will turn it on for all of us thanks to the deranged irresponsibility of your kind.

                                if someone is so tech illiterate that they are breaking the phone's software and leaking their information all over the internet, they cannot be responsibly allowed to use that device without restrictions.

                                I bet you are one of those that want forced government ID based age verification everywhere because you agree with people who can't be bothered to set limits on their kids phone.

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                                  Nnnno.

                                  Yyyyes.

                                  Grandpa is not a child. Grandpa is an adult.

                                  of course. that's out of question. However the tools provided by parental controls is what can solve this problem effectively. It's specifically for the case when the user cannot use the device responsibly for one reason or another. you set parental controls up, and now they can't break their phone.

                                  what is the reason you think the parental controls function is not appropriate for grandpa? does it block him from doing something he should be able to do freely?

                                  Grandpa is well within his rights to own appliances that do things grandpa doesn't fully understands but that are useful to Grandpa.

                                  I totally agree! And with that, he is well within his rights to break his phone accidentally. the question is not that. the question is whether you want to help him avoid that. with parental controls you can allow him to do everything he needs to do.

                                  There is value for Grandpa (and for your jock brother that doesn't understand computers, this isn't an age problem) to have access to applications where he pays some company to do a thing for them. Those companies can take some of the complexity out of their hands, and Grandpa should be protected from abusive practices.

                                  Yes. That works if grandpa is willing to ask professionals before (or after) doing something stupid. If that applies, you don't set up parental controls for him, but allow him to do whatever.

                                  If he is not willing to do that, he needs to be barred from breaking his phone. That's why you support google's plan, because they implement that, right?
                                  But the problem is that they implement it ineffectively because they can still install plenty of hot garbage from the play store, and it'll make every other user's lives harder who know at least somewhat what they are doing, plus of those who are willing to give help to relatives any day. Because they either won't be able to install apps that they trust, outside of the play store, or it will come with huge consequences like making google play integrity checks fail, or these apps being restricted in what can they do.

                                  that is why you don't implement such insanity on all phones worldwide, but only individually for those people that need this kindof stronger guidance.

                                  It's not on Grandpa to do research on technology just to make a phone call now any more than it was for 1960s grandpas.

                                  who needs to do research on that? you gave him the phone, it's your job to show him how to place a call. but this point is not even relevant because google's planned limitations wouldn't do anything so that your grandpa can place a call if he doesn't know how to do that.

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                                    This isn't a fight over security, or even the control to form a walled garden. This is to eliminate privacy, the ability to run anonymously written code. This forces every bit of code to be tied to a name and face. It shortens the legal legwork needed to pin down who made what, this will be used to eliminate anonymous groups compiling their own E2EE communication network. Time is important when your trying to use a compromised member of a group to make a honeypot trap.

                                    ETA: Whoops, hit the wrong reply button

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                                      This isn't a fight over security, or even the control to form a walled garden. This is to eliminate privacy, the ability to run anonymously written code. This forces every bit of code to be tied to a name and face. It shortens the legal legwork needed to pin down who made what, this will be used to eliminate anonymous groups compiling their own E2EE communication network. Time is important when your trying to use a compromised member of a group to make a honeypot trap.

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                                      • W [email protected]

                                        you can get all the right you need with a little trickery. I mean, psexec is made and distributed by Microsoft, freely. a simple download. and I don't think it's bad that the average user can't run everything immediately as TrustedInstaller or SYSTEM.

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                                        that’s a nice option to have, at least. i’ve s few more complaints left for each OS, but in the end i’d prefer a linux style and level of control over a machine and overall less abstraction. we’re getting software locked out most hardware nowadays: cars, household appliances, public transit, airports, privacy and so on

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                                        • corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                                          Do some banks not have websites anymore?

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                                          The website only works with Chrome

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