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  • venus_ziegenfalle@feddit.orgV [email protected]

    My feed is curated by the Illuminati

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    #15

    That's what they want you to think.

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      https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/115093185284473606

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      nudging the EU with a stick
      Come on, do something

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        #17

        That's fine. They should be LEGALLY required to allow ME to make that call and offer an avenue to allow me to remove it all.

        Nobody is saying everyone's machine MUST be completely open and insecure.

        But that's a far cry from giving me no recourse to make MY hardware do what I want it to.

        And before anybody screams "liability", they're going to hold you to an EULA anyway - throw a couple lines in there.

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          That would be true, if the Play store was curated any better.

          You can still upload malware to the Play store. It happened numerous times, both on the Apple side, and on the Google Side.

          Restricting your choice from 2 places of dodgy places to 1 dodgy place does nothing.

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          • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

            You know, it's true - I have never heard a Linux user refer to something as sideloading, even though Linux is the platform that originated official software repositories.

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            This does feel like a bit of a double-standard to me. I’ve hated how Microsoft and Apple have introduced app stores on Windows and macOS and try to push people to only install from there instead of directly from the developer. And yet on Linux the advice seems to be never ever download directly from the developer; you should only download from the package repository provided by your OS (which sure feels like an App Store). And that package probably wasn’t even provided by the developer or the OS but some random volunteer that you just assume has good intentions.

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              Posts like this are like a mechanic saying “There is no reason for a manufacturer to force drivers into having a catalytic converter in their own engine”

              It's more along the lines of "There's no reason for manufacturers to forbid my mechanic from installing a perfectly fine catalytic converter just because said manufacturer doesn't like it"

              Giving manufacturers full control over the software users run will not end well. Why should google tolerate a browser that runs an adblock extension? Currently they do so because the alternative would be losing users to alternatives but if they have all android devices under control and make deals with most of the browser devs (it's all chromium already and firefox is almost entirely financed by google) then you'll find yourself forced to watch ads. This is what they're slowly creeping towards.

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                You already can't "sideload" without navigating the options and going through a big scary pop-up saying you better know what you're doing. In other words, it's already locked down enough.

                This is not about making grandma safe. It is about control.

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                • jqubed@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                  This does feel like a bit of a double-standard to me. I’ve hated how Microsoft and Apple have introduced app stores on Windows and macOS and try to push people to only install from there instead of directly from the developer. And yet on Linux the advice seems to be never ever download directly from the developer; you should only download from the package repository provided by your OS (which sure feels like an App Store). And that package probably wasn’t even provided by the developer or the OS but some random volunteer that you just assume has good intentions.

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                  If you used Linux before the repos were fully developed then you understand why they were created.

                  Who else remembers "dependency hell?"

                  Corpos just took the same idea and twisted it into something else.

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                    https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/115093185284473606

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                    I strongly disagree. There is absolutely a use case for my mom not needing me to wipe her phone every time she tries to get Duolingo or whatever.

                    There is no scenario where an entire segment of devices should be locked to two companies having full control of what software can run worldwide, though. That part demands regulatory intervention.

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                    • diplomjodler3@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                      We really really need an open OS for mobile phones that is actually competitive with commercial offerings.

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                      Doesn’t android allow this?

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                        nudging the EU with a stick
                        Come on, do something

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                        They are, they are banning bootloader unlocking, a requirement to get out of corporate hell.

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                        • jqubed@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                          This does feel like a bit of a double-standard to me. I’ve hated how Microsoft and Apple have introduced app stores on Windows and macOS and try to push people to only install from there instead of directly from the developer. And yet on Linux the advice seems to be never ever download directly from the developer; you should only download from the package repository provided by your OS (which sure feels like an App Store). And that package probably wasn’t even provided by the developer or the OS but some random volunteer that you just assume has good intentions.

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                          The key difference is that one is advised, the other is enforced.

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                            nudging the EU with a stick
                            Come on, do something

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                            Plot twist: EU enacts Chat Control.

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                              They are, they are banning bootloader unlocking, a requirement to get out of corporate hell.

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                              Fucking what

                              Edit:

                              Might not be the case afterall:
                              https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24601-eu-is-banning-bootloaders-unlock

                              Verification by radio equipment of the compliance of its combination with software should not be abused in order to prevent its use with software provided by independent parties.

                              we do not expect any issues for GrapheneOS

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                              • venus_ziegenfalle@feddit.orgV [email protected]

                                My feed is curated by the Illuminati

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                                they are everywhere one just has to learn how to read the signs 🔝🔜⚛️

                                (/s)

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                                  https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/115093185284473606

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                                  What is this post even saying? It's a completely reasonable word and it predates Android. There's no reason to force a negative connotation on it

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                                  • miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.comM [email protected]

                                    REMOVE SHOES BEFORE BOOTING ANDROID.

                                    meme with android robot logo captioned 'remove shoes before booting

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                                    Unless you pay extra for Android pre-check. Get the right credit card and you can get it for free, plus lounge access!

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                                      Plot twist: EU enacts Chat Control.

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                                      It was said you were to destroy the Sith, not join them!

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                                        One person's inability to use a common device is not an excuse to make it worse for everyone else.

                                        My parents are pretty incompetent when it comes to tech, but it wasn't difficult for them to understand not to install random shit and call if in doubt.

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                                          Doesn’t android allow this?

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                                          That's what the OP is referring to: Google just announced they will do their best to kill off sideloading.

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