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Posts like this are like a mechanic saying “There is no reason for a manufacturer to force drivers into having a catalytic converter in their own engine”
It's more along the lines of "There's no reason for manufacturers to forbid my mechanic from installing a perfectly fine catalytic converter just because said manufacturer doesn't like it"
Giving manufacturers full control over the software users run will not end well. Why should google tolerate a browser that runs an adblock extension? Currently they do so because the alternative would be losing users to alternatives but if they have all android devices under control and make deals with most of the browser devs (it's all chromium already and firefox is almost entirely financed by google) then you'll find yourself forced to watch ads. This is what they're slowly creeping towards.
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You already can't "sideload" without navigating the options and going through a big scary pop-up saying you better know what you're doing. In other words, it's already locked down enough.
This is not about making grandma safe. It is about control.
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This does feel like a bit of a double-standard to me. I’ve hated how Microsoft and Apple have introduced app stores on Windows and macOS and try to push people to only install from there instead of directly from the developer. And yet on Linux the advice seems to be never ever download directly from the developer; you should only download from the package repository provided by your OS (which sure feels like an App Store). And that package probably wasn’t even provided by the developer or the OS but some random volunteer that you just assume has good intentions.
If you used Linux before the repos were fully developed then you understand why they were created.
Who else remembers "dependency hell?"
Corpos just took the same idea and twisted it into something else.
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I strongly disagree. There is absolutely a use case for my mom not needing me to wipe her phone every time she tries to get Duolingo or whatever.
There is no scenario where an entire segment of devices should be locked to two companies having full control of what software can run worldwide, though. That part demands regulatory intervention.
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We really really need an open OS for mobile phones that is actually competitive with commercial offerings.
Doesn’t android allow this?
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nudging the EU with a stick
Come on, do somethingThey are, they are banning bootloader unlocking, a requirement to get out of corporate hell.
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This does feel like a bit of a double-standard to me. I’ve hated how Microsoft and Apple have introduced app stores on Windows and macOS and try to push people to only install from there instead of directly from the developer. And yet on Linux the advice seems to be never ever download directly from the developer; you should only download from the package repository provided by your OS (which sure feels like an App Store). And that package probably wasn’t even provided by the developer or the OS but some random volunteer that you just assume has good intentions.
The key difference is that one is advised, the other is enforced.
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nudging the EU with a stick
Come on, do somethingPlot twist: EU enacts Chat Control.
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They are, they are banning bootloader unlocking, a requirement to get out of corporate hell.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Fucking what
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Might not be the case afterall:
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24601-eu-is-banning-bootloaders-unlockVerification by radio equipment of the compliance of its combination with software should not be abused in order to prevent its use with software provided by independent parties.
we do not expect any issues for GrapheneOS
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My feed is curated by the Illuminati
they are everywhere one just has to learn how to read the signs
️(/s)
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What is this post even saying? It's a completely reasonable word and it predates Android. There's no reason to force a negative connotation on it
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REMOVE SHOES BEFORE BOOTING ANDROID.
Unless you pay extra for Android pre-check. Get the right credit card and you can get it for free, plus lounge access!
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Plot twist: EU enacts Chat Control.
It was said you were to destroy the Sith, not join them!
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One person's inability to use a common device is not an excuse to make it worse for everyone else.
My parents are pretty incompetent when it comes to tech, but it wasn't difficult for them to understand not to install random shit and call if in doubt.
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Doesn’t android allow this?
That's what the OP is referring to: Google just announced they will do their best to kill off sideloading.
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You're right that there's value in having a software repository with "vetted" apps in it. And at the same time, there's a difference between "here's stuff we've done some kind of due diligence on" and "you aren't allowed to install anything we haven't okayed." That's what Apple and now Google are doing.
(I also think there's value in having a word like "sideload" to describe the action of installing software not in a repository. It's just that it's tied up now in this paternal attitude from the big companies)
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One person's inability to use a common device is not an excuse to make it worse for everyone else.
My parents are pretty incompetent when it comes to tech, but it wasn't difficult for them to understand not to install random shit and call if in doubt.
It's not one person, it's the vast majority of the userbase.
Which, to be clear, is again not a reason to have a duopoly decide what software can be made or executed in the first place. It's fine to have Google decide what the Play store will carry, and it's even fine for Android devices to require a manual bypass to run unsigned software. It's not fine for Apple and Google (and I guess Huawei by necessity) to have final arbitrary say on what software is acceptable on all handheld mobile devices.
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That's a moron take. Plenty of people have no business downloading random apps. It takes all of 15 seconds with a Google search to side load. It's a fucking idiot test.
But yeah I'm sure if this check weren't there people would flock to fdroid
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That's a moron take. Plenty of people have no business downloading random apps. It takes all of 15 seconds with a Google search to side load. It's a fucking idiot test.
But yeah I'm sure if this check weren't there people would flock to fdroid
I think this is referring to recent news that google is trying to ban non-google-play installs (aka: sideloading)
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People cannot be trusted to govern themselves, this is why I am supporting the redcoats. HAIL KING GEORGE III! /s
