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  3. Is it true that people misuse the word "racist"/"Anti-Semite" /"bigot" to shut down criticism?

Is it true that people misuse the word "racist"/"Anti-Semite" /"bigot" to shut down criticism?

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  • O [email protected]

    Yes, but people also misuse the idea that's it's misused to shut people up.

    E.g.: hey maybe we shouldn't starve children to death?

    Zionist: wow why do you only criticise Israel like this, you anti-semite!

    Point goes unanswered, OP probably feels the need to defend themselves instead of pursuing their valid point.

    Alternatively..

    Racist: some groups are just not compatible with western culture

    Someone: you can't make assumptions about massive groups of people. Many people come to the west because they don't agree with their culture. To assume everyone from one place is the same is racist.

    Racist: wow there you go! Don't engage just scream "racist" at everyone you don't like.

    Again, point goes unanswered. The person probably feels the need to defend this accusation again

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    you can’t make assumptions about massive groups of people. Many people come to the west because they don’t agree with their culture. To assume everyone from one place is the same is racist

    I think you are wrong here, you need to look at how likely this case is,how much they like western culture & How many people don't agree with their culture?

    But IMO usually they(anti immigrations) are sold narrative, that it is threat to them by political parties who want easy win,third party organizations who hire lobbyists for their cause & religious groups, just like communists sell their idea. IMO such diversity is good.

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      This is the big thing with people using the term "Anti-Semite", when us Khazars (what most call Jews) aren't even Shemitic at all (We're Japethites). I fully understand the implications of that as a partial German-American Khazar myself. The terms racist and bigot are not as destructive as Anti-Semite, and we were the ones who made the latter stronger than the two former, though we also tend to use that if people don't like what we're doing.

      You can thank Rome for teaching us how to be barbarians, though.

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      • R [email protected]

        Most Conservatives aren't Nazis.

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        I am sure many US conservatives would deny this, but they are actively mourning a wanna be Nazi. Also, MAGA is literally a Nazi movement in disguise.

        I would normally agree with you, but I am not so sure anymore.

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          Yes, all the time. People will call you a "fascist", "racist" simply for wanting laws to be enforced, e.g illegal immigrants to be deported.

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            Yes and it happens left right up down middle. No single group is immune to it.

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              Yes, all the time. People will call you a "fascist", "racist" simply for wanting laws to be enforced, e.g illegal immigrants to be deported.

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              oh wow. a new instance to block.

              at least you're wearing your cult on your sleeve now.

              1000002035

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                what's up with the "clear things up" phrase?, is this site run by bots?

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                It’s fun to be silly and the fediverse has a bit of a “ministry of silly walks” vibe to it. I hope that helps clear things up.

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                  oh wow. a new instance to block.

                  at least you're wearing your cult on your sleeve now.

                  1000002035

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                  Imagine being this mad about people simply wanting to make this country better.
                  Yeah sure just live in your social bubble and keep calling everyone you don't like a fascist. Perfect strategy, worked so well for the liberals recently.

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                    I agree, if you mean: We should be able to criticize individuals for their own actions.

                    Not entire groups of people based on generalizations.

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                    Well, Israel is a country, not a group of people, nor is it explicitly a religion, despite having an official state religion.

                    To wit: If criticizing Israel is antisemitism, then is a criticism of Poland seen as anti-catholic? Are criticisms of Somalia seen as anti-Muslim? Denmark/Anti-Lutheran, Thailand/anti-buddhism, Turkey/anti-atheist?
                    The last one is a bit of a stretch, since Turkey is merely officially secular, and not explicitly atheist, but my point is that for the above named pairings, criticism of the state isn’t considered to be attacks against the religion.

                    It’s a bit silly to have an exception for just the one country, isn’t it?

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                      Yes, all the time. People will call you a "fascist", "racist" simply for wanting laws to be enforced, e.g illegal immigrants to be deported.

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                        Imagine being this mad about people simply wanting to make this country better.
                        Yeah sure just live in your social bubble and keep calling everyone you don't like a fascist. Perfect strategy, worked so well for the liberals recently.

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                        Do you often take offense to what's written in dictionaries and historical accounts?

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                          oh wow. a new instance to block.

                          at least you're wearing your cult on your sleeve now.

                          1000002035

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                          Did you just prove his point..?

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                            oh wow. a new instance to block.

                            at least you're wearing your cult on your sleeve now.

                            1000002035

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                            How do you block an instance?

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