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  • E [email protected]

    Legality and morality don't necessarily align. I would find it very immoral, but as far as I know, not illegal, to get off to drawings of children. Additionally, what's the difference between a photo of a child and a realistic drawing of a "fictional character" that looks like said child? I think getting off to children is wrong, regardless of criminality. If that's something someone desires, they should seek help, not indulge in fantasy.

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    to get off to drawings of children

    They are not drawings of children, they are drawings of fictional characters that look like children. That is an important distinction here I think. Obviously getting off to a drawing of a real child is wrong.

    what's the difference between a photo of a child and a realistic drawing of a "fictional character" that looks like said child?

    That's my whole point, it makes all the difference. One is an actual human person that feels emotions and is harmed by the creation and spread of csam, while the other literally doesn't exist.

    That's why I think it is not actually immoral. (I believe morality and legality should align anyways) Then again that's why we watch fictional shows in the first place

    I think your disgust might come from anthropomorphising the fictional character and feeling empathy towards it?
    (Of course you are entitled to your feelings)

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      to get off to drawings of children

      They are not drawings of children, they are drawings of fictional characters that look like children. That is an important distinction here I think. Obviously getting off to a drawing of a real child is wrong.

      what's the difference between a photo of a child and a realistic drawing of a "fictional character" that looks like said child?

      That's my whole point, it makes all the difference. One is an actual human person that feels emotions and is harmed by the creation and spread of csam, while the other literally doesn't exist.

      That's why I think it is not actually immoral. (I believe morality and legality should align anyways) Then again that's why we watch fictional shows in the first place

      I think your disgust might come from anthropomorphising the fictional character and feeling empathy towards it?
      (Of course you are entitled to your feelings)

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      I have always felt the "actually she's 1000 years old and just looks like a child" argument is both ridiculous and disingenuous. They're interested because she looks like a child, not because of her character supposed age. Again, but rephrased, what's the difference if someone makes a character that looks like a real child but is fictional and much older in their characterization? At what point is it morally acceptable? Do you need to use an ambiguous art style? Do you need to include inhuman character traits? I simply cannot take the argument seriously, because clearly the character looking like a child is important. What difference does the story you tell yourself about their age make? Why not just pretend real CSAM is just young looking aliens that are a million years old? If it looks like a child, I believe it's unequivocally immoral, and there is no line you can draw that would convince me that a childlike drawing that falls on the "OK" side of the line isn't immoral.

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        The fraction of teenage/underage girls on that list is too damn high (hell, Louise is 9)

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        I agree but the availability of csam on the internet (real or simulated) reduces the instances of real-world abuse so... take that as you will I guess 😕

        Edit: I learned that in college about 7 years ago, but I researched it again and apparently the opposite is true, according to more recent evidence.

        https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10701425/

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          I agree but the availability of csam on the internet (real or simulated) reduces the instances of real-world abuse so... take that as you will I guess 😕

          Edit: I learned that in college about 7 years ago, but I researched it again and apparently the opposite is true, according to more recent evidence.

          https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10701425/

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          Does it? I used to see this argument a lot on Reddit back in the early days when there were a lot more pedos on there and I don't really buy it. Are there any actual studies on this? I feel like there have got to be better ways at managing it than that at least from a clinical standpoint

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            Edit: WE DON'T TALK ABOUT NUMBER 11.

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            Lisa Simpson being 2nd is vile wallahi 🤮

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              Lisa Simpson being 2nd is vile wallahi 🤮

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              Hope you don't find out who #11 is. (I DDG'd it and wish I hadn't.)

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              • omegalemmy@discuss.onlineO [email protected]

                explain in normielang

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                Findafox is a good, work-safe example.

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                  Edit: WE DON'T TALK ABOUT NUMBER 11.

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                  Comment section full of idiots thinking this is real.

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                    Comment section full of idiots thinking this is real.

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                    Just FYI: https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=icame

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                      Just FYI: https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=icame

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                      Was not expecting Elon Musk.

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                        Comment section full of idiots thinking this is real.

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                        It's Rule 34. It's always real.

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                          Okay, I can't speak for this extremely fucked up example, but in general it's very simple:

                          1. see shape which sufficiently resembles (partially) naked woman, maybe in suggestive pose
                          2. neuron activation
                          3. you are now horny

                          There is no need to imagine any fucking, seeing the image is enough to get you into the mood, looking at it long enough (or at different images for long enough) will get you most of the way there, and the hand can take care of the rest

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                          Wait, you don't imagine elaborate narratives where, say, Adrien Brody's car breaks down in a stretch in the wilderness with nothing but your cabin for miles. So he walks toward the only structure and I'm there studying mosses and it's so remote I have a sat phone I let him use to call for help, but it'll be a while so I make him some tea and we get to talking. Night falls before help comes so I light a fire in the pit and let him borrow a sweater I stole from an ex and pull out a bottle of whiskey I was saving for something special but it's special enough. It keeps us chatting untill the early hours when a tow truck finally shows and I see him off. When I get home from my studies I find a package waiting for me—it's the sweater he borrowed, a thank you card, and a bottle of fine whiskey?

                          (I'm uncomfortable sexually fantasizing about real people.)

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                            Does it? I used to see this argument a lot on Reddit back in the early days when there were a lot more pedos on there and I don't really buy it. Are there any actual studies on this? I feel like there have got to be better ways at managing it than that at least from a clinical standpoint

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                            No clue, but for what it's worth we know violent video games don't cause more violence and some studies show they can even reduce it at least so I'd imagine it would extrapolate similarly to other visual media

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                              Isn't there an episode where Maggie is grown up? Or am I thinking of Lisa?

                              I choose to believe it's the adult version

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                              You’re thinking of Holidays Of Future Passed.

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                                Findafox is a good, work-safe example.

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                                Even THAT is blocked by turkey wtf

                                I had to connect with a VPN

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                                  Lisa Simpson being 2nd is vile wallahi 🤮

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                                  R34 doesn’t allow loli or shota content anymore. So all of the content of children is just them aged up looking like actual adults. Still questionable, but better.

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                                    Even THAT is blocked by turkey wtf

                                    I had to connect with a VPN

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                                    Wow, that's surprising. It's got less than a dozen users posting cute fox photos. Maybe they're automatically blocking booru software, since plenty of others have porn.

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                                      Wow, that's surprising. It's got less than a dozen users posting cute fox photos. Maybe they're automatically blocking booru software, since plenty of others have porn.

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                                      Probably

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                                        Hope you don't find out who #11 is. (I DDG'd it and wish I hadn't.)

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                                        Yeh I scrolled down, now I see why Thanos snapped.

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                                          No clue, but for what it's worth we know violent video games don't cause more violence and some studies show they can even reduce it at least so I'd imagine it would extrapolate similarly to other visual media

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                                          The difference is that (almost) everyone has an innate drive towards having sex that they don't have towards doing violent things. It's a totally different biochemical process to get horny than to get violent.

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