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Lol nothing like guilt-tripping the losers of a war like they weren't just trying to keep their jobs and feed their families just like everyone else

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    Lol nothing like guilt-tripping the losers of a war like they weren't just trying to keep their jobs and feed their families just like everyone else

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      It's a complex issue but I do believe that what is in the poster is true or mostly true. I say mostly true because in 1941 they had "the strongest, most explicit and most widespread protest movement against any Nazi policy since the beginning of the Third Reich". They were protesting against Aktion T4 which was a policy to kill many disabled children.

      Imagine if the protests were stronger against the Nazi regime?

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        Laber kein Müll.

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          It worked precisely because everyone just shut up and looked away. If in every city thousands of people were protesting in the streets, even peacefully, then what do you think would have happened? Is the Wehrmacht supposed to gun down everyone in the county until no-one is left? Modern China also works and is this hellscape because people stopped after the Tiananmen Square massacre. Fascists need to be opposed violently. They do not speak the same language as you or I do. They only understand one thing, power. Therefore, as the government is the combined power of the people, if the people reject the government violently, the government will fall. There will always be less soldiers than population in a country. What do you think would happen if, for example, even 10% of the Chinese population would revolt? What is the Chinese army going to do? Gun down 110 million? Not even the first world war has seen death rates as high as 10% of the population. People think: "Yes, fascism is bad, but if I fall behind on my payments this month, there may be negative consequences for me." And this is exactly how it works. From a micro level like the Chinese social credit system, to a macro level. Yes, there will be consequences, but you know what's worse than these consequences? Putting millions into concentration camps.

          As historical context, the people of Germany and Austria fully supported what the Third Reich was doing. Reason being was their treatment after the First World War, the Austrian Empire was deliberately shattered while Germany was given the exclusive fault for the war, which is absurd because everyone wanted the war. The goal of the treaty was to reduce Germany and Austria to essentially failed states. The Nazi ideology is an ideology born out of pure hatred. A hatred an entire people felt, rightfully, but that has escalated into concentration camps just a few years after.

          And as modern context, remember, concentration camps were the final solution. The first solution was mass deportations. If people deliberately reject history, they will fall into the same mistakes again.

          Edit: typo. Also, after the Second World War, people finally learned the right lesson. Conflicts must be solved through dialogue and not through war. If you doubt that, look at the aftermath of the First World War.

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            Go to YouTube and look up "Time Ghost". They have every single bit of info about Nazi Germany you'd possibly want, including why Hitler came to power and the human stories behind it all.

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