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    Recently tried an Impossible burger and nuggets and thought that if nobody told me it wasn't meat, I'd have thought the patty was made out of a weird kind of meat, rather than make a connection with the taste and texture of plants. Honestly, I might not complain if that was the only kind of "meat" I could have for the rest of my life.

    Well, maybe I'd miss bacon.

    I've yet to find the opportunity to try lab-grown meat, but I for sure would like to try it out and don't see much wrong with it as long as it's sustainable, reasonably priced, and doesn't have anything you wouldn't expect in a normal piece of meat.

    Also, with imitation and lab-grown options, I'd no longer have to deal with the disgust factor of handling raw meat (esp. the juices) or biting into gristle. I'll happily devour a hot dog, but something about an unexpected bit of cartilage gives me a lingering sense of revulsion.

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      Recently tried an Impossible burger and nuggets and thought that if nobody told me it wasn't meat, I'd have thought the patty was made out of a weird kind of meat, rather than make a connection with the taste and texture of plants. Honestly, I might not complain if that was the only kind of "meat" I could have for the rest of my life.

      Well, maybe I'd miss bacon.

      I've yet to find the opportunity to try lab-grown meat, but I for sure would like to try it out and don't see much wrong with it as long as it's sustainable, reasonably priced, and doesn't have anything you wouldn't expect in a normal piece of meat.

      Also, with imitation and lab-grown options, I'd no longer have to deal with the disgust factor of handling raw meat (esp. the juices) or biting into gristle. I'll happily devour a hot dog, but something about an unexpected bit of cartilage gives me a lingering sense of revulsion.

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      Imitation stuff made from pea protein and coconut oil is surprisingly good. It pan fries just fine. It's chewy and meaty. It doesn't have the exact taste and texture of beef but it makes a burger.

      I tried some mycelium based bacon recently. It was interesting. I've since bought it like 3 more times. It scratches the bacon itch without tasting like death. I hear that there are more mycelium based products out there that are gaining traction and I submitted requests to my local grocery store to carry those products.

      Quorn is awesome for chicken nuggets. Frankly I prefer them to the real thing.

      Beyond as a brand needs to fucking die. Their products suck. Their markup is excessive and makes their products cost far more than the equivalent meat products. Their stock is teetering on the brink of oblivion and I say end it. I recall them pushing for beyond orange chicken at panda express and they wanted to charge a premium for it. Then they wondered "why didnt anyone want this?" Because you charged more for an inferior product you fuckheads. Price your products *below* the meat products you replace and you'll see astronomical sales - especially when herds are culled because of sickness.

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      • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

        Recently tried an Impossible burger and nuggets and thought that if nobody told me it wasn't meat, I'd have thought the patty was made out of a weird kind of meat, rather than make a connection with the taste and texture of plants. Honestly, I might not complain if that was the only kind of "meat" I could have for the rest of my life.

        Well, maybe I'd miss bacon.

        I've yet to find the opportunity to try lab-grown meat, but I for sure would like to try it out and don't see much wrong with it as long as it's sustainable, reasonably priced, and doesn't have anything you wouldn't expect in a normal piece of meat.

        Also, with imitation and lab-grown options, I'd no longer have to deal with the disgust factor of handling raw meat (esp. the juices) or biting into gristle. I'll happily devour a hot dog, but something about an unexpected bit of cartilage gives me a lingering sense of revulsion.

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        I bought some plant burgers a while back and they were pretty decent. I struggled to fully cook them and they ended up kinda carbonized on the outside and a little underdone in the middle so the consistency wasn't great, but fairly convincing taste-wise.

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          Recently tried an Impossible burger and nuggets and thought that if nobody told me it wasn't meat, I'd have thought the patty was made out of a weird kind of meat, rather than make a connection with the taste and texture of plants. Honestly, I might not complain if that was the only kind of "meat" I could have for the rest of my life.

          Well, maybe I'd miss bacon.

          I've yet to find the opportunity to try lab-grown meat, but I for sure would like to try it out and don't see much wrong with it as long as it's sustainable, reasonably priced, and doesn't have anything you wouldn't expect in a normal piece of meat.

          Also, with imitation and lab-grown options, I'd no longer have to deal with the disgust factor of handling raw meat (esp. the juices) or biting into gristle. I'll happily devour a hot dog, but something about an unexpected bit of cartilage gives me a lingering sense of revulsion.

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          The A&W veggie burger is just as good. It's funny to order it with bacon, (not a vegetarian, just like to moderate beef.) I've had a Beyond Meat burger, but it was from a cafeteria that clearly didn't know how to cook.

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            Recently tried an Impossible burger and nuggets and thought that if nobody told me it wasn't meat, I'd have thought the patty was made out of a weird kind of meat, rather than make a connection with the taste and texture of plants. Honestly, I might not complain if that was the only kind of "meat" I could have for the rest of my life.

            Well, maybe I'd miss bacon.

            I've yet to find the opportunity to try lab-grown meat, but I for sure would like to try it out and don't see much wrong with it as long as it's sustainable, reasonably priced, and doesn't have anything you wouldn't expect in a normal piece of meat.

            Also, with imitation and lab-grown options, I'd no longer have to deal with the disgust factor of handling raw meat (esp. the juices) or biting into gristle. I'll happily devour a hot dog, but something about an unexpected bit of cartilage gives me a lingering sense of revulsion.

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            I basically feel the same as you

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            • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

              Recently tried an Impossible burger and nuggets and thought that if nobody told me it wasn't meat, I'd have thought the patty was made out of a weird kind of meat, rather than make a connection with the taste and texture of plants. Honestly, I might not complain if that was the only kind of "meat" I could have for the rest of my life.

              Well, maybe I'd miss bacon.

              I've yet to find the opportunity to try lab-grown meat, but I for sure would like to try it out and don't see much wrong with it as long as it's sustainable, reasonably priced, and doesn't have anything you wouldn't expect in a normal piece of meat.

              Also, with imitation and lab-grown options, I'd no longer have to deal with the disgust factor of handling raw meat (esp. the juices) or biting into gristle. I'll happily devour a hot dog, but something about an unexpected bit of cartilage gives me a lingering sense of revulsion.

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              They got the taste down on a lot of imitation meats; but the texture is usually way wrong. I have been hopeful that lab grown meat would solve that problem. Like, the best plant-based substitute I've ever had, was a "chicken" nugget that tasted perfrct, but still had the texture of wadded up paper.

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                Imitation stuff made from pea protein and coconut oil is surprisingly good. It pan fries just fine. It's chewy and meaty. It doesn't have the exact taste and texture of beef but it makes a burger.

                I tried some mycelium based bacon recently. It was interesting. I've since bought it like 3 more times. It scratches the bacon itch without tasting like death. I hear that there are more mycelium based products out there that are gaining traction and I submitted requests to my local grocery store to carry those products.

                Quorn is awesome for chicken nuggets. Frankly I prefer them to the real thing.

                Beyond as a brand needs to fucking die. Their products suck. Their markup is excessive and makes their products cost far more than the equivalent meat products. Their stock is teetering on the brink of oblivion and I say end it. I recall them pushing for beyond orange chicken at panda express and they wanted to charge a premium for it. Then they wondered "why didnt anyone want this?" Because you charged more for an inferior product you fuckheads. Price your products *below* the meat products you replace and you'll see astronomical sales - especially when herds are culled because of sickness.

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                Do you happen to know the brand of mycelium bacon you had? I'd be interested to try it

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                  Recently tried an Impossible burger and nuggets and thought that if nobody told me it wasn't meat, I'd have thought the patty was made out of a weird kind of meat, rather than make a connection with the taste and texture of plants. Honestly, I might not complain if that was the only kind of "meat" I could have for the rest of my life.

                  Well, maybe I'd miss bacon.

                  I've yet to find the opportunity to try lab-grown meat, but I for sure would like to try it out and don't see much wrong with it as long as it's sustainable, reasonably priced, and doesn't have anything you wouldn't expect in a normal piece of meat.

                  Also, with imitation and lab-grown options, I'd no longer have to deal with the disgust factor of handling raw meat (esp. the juices) or biting into gristle. I'll happily devour a hot dog, but something about an unexpected bit of cartilage gives me a lingering sense of revulsion.

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                  I’m not a good barometer for this since I pretty much like everything, but I like them. I just bought some vegetarian bacon and it was good. I’m not quite ready to stop eating meat, and I probably won’t ever fully stop, but I do plan on reducing it greatly over the next few years. I’m starting with pork since it’s the easiest one for me (bacon is about the only pork I eat regularly), cow is next, and then chicken which is the hardest one for me but it’s also the ones who suffer the most. I’m starting to buy cage free only eggs. I know the birds still live in bad conditions, but at least they are better conditions somewhat than overcrowded cages.

                  I am looking for ethical farmers near me and I think I might have found one but I need to visit to make sure.

                  I do wish lab grown meats become viable soon but in the US, these so called capitalists are already moving to impede progress and market adoption.

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                    Do you happen to know the brand of mycelium bacon you had? I'd be interested to try it

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                    https://myforestfoods.com/mybacon

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                    • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                      Recently tried an Impossible burger and nuggets and thought that if nobody told me it wasn't meat, I'd have thought the patty was made out of a weird kind of meat, rather than make a connection with the taste and texture of plants. Honestly, I might not complain if that was the only kind of "meat" I could have for the rest of my life.

                      Well, maybe I'd miss bacon.

                      I've yet to find the opportunity to try lab-grown meat, but I for sure would like to try it out and don't see much wrong with it as long as it's sustainable, reasonably priced, and doesn't have anything you wouldn't expect in a normal piece of meat.

                      Also, with imitation and lab-grown options, I'd no longer have to deal with the disgust factor of handling raw meat (esp. the juices) or biting into gristle. I'll happily devour a hot dog, but something about an unexpected bit of cartilage gives me a lingering sense of revulsion.

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                      I have only tried one brand of plant-based nuggets and sometimes make my own meat substitutes from tofu and TVP (textured vegetable protein). Eating it by itself, it’s not quite meat-passing in terms of texture, but the flavor is close if seasoned correctly. When it’s used as a part of other dishes, the taste becomes more convincing. You get used to the taste after you stop eating meat for a while.

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                        I have only tried one brand of plant-based nuggets and sometimes make my own meat substitutes from tofu and TVP (textured vegetable protein). Eating it by itself, it’s not quite meat-passing in terms of texture, but the flavor is close if seasoned correctly. When it’s used as a part of other dishes, the taste becomes more convincing. You get used to the taste after you stop eating meat for a while.

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                        seconding TVP. We add it to tacos all the time. Tastes like cereal straight, but with enough seasoning, it's a great ground meat substitute.

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                          Recently tried an Impossible burger and nuggets and thought that if nobody told me it wasn't meat, I'd have thought the patty was made out of a weird kind of meat, rather than make a connection with the taste and texture of plants. Honestly, I might not complain if that was the only kind of "meat" I could have for the rest of my life.

                          Well, maybe I'd miss bacon.

                          I've yet to find the opportunity to try lab-grown meat, but I for sure would like to try it out and don't see much wrong with it as long as it's sustainable, reasonably priced, and doesn't have anything you wouldn't expect in a normal piece of meat.

                          Also, with imitation and lab-grown options, I'd no longer have to deal with the disgust factor of handling raw meat (esp. the juices) or biting into gristle. I'll happily devour a hot dog, but something about an unexpected bit of cartilage gives me a lingering sense of revulsion.

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                          I think that apparently capitalists won't be happy until the literal entirety of 1984 is brought into being and every final vestige of joy is driven out of life.

                          And I say that as someone who mostly likes things like Impossible burgers.

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                            I think that apparently capitalists won't be happy until the literal entirety of 1984 is brought into being and every final vestige of joy is driven out of life.

                            And I say that as someone who mostly likes things like Impossible burgers.

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                            The final vestige of joy being animal suffering?

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                              Recently tried an Impossible burger and nuggets and thought that if nobody told me it wasn't meat, I'd have thought the patty was made out of a weird kind of meat, rather than make a connection with the taste and texture of plants. Honestly, I might not complain if that was the only kind of "meat" I could have for the rest of my life.

                              Well, maybe I'd miss bacon.

                              I've yet to find the opportunity to try lab-grown meat, but I for sure would like to try it out and don't see much wrong with it as long as it's sustainable, reasonably priced, and doesn't have anything you wouldn't expect in a normal piece of meat.

                              Also, with imitation and lab-grown options, I'd no longer have to deal with the disgust factor of handling raw meat (esp. the juices) or biting into gristle. I'll happily devour a hot dog, but something about an unexpected bit of cartilage gives me a lingering sense of revulsion.

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                              As someone who does not eat meat because I don't like it, these are useless foods to me. Why eat a highly processed version of something you don't like in the first place, just because it's plant based.
                              I like veggie burgers that taste like veggies. That's just me.
                              These substitutes are really for people looking to reduce their meat consumption, or transition to a plant based diet.
                              I will take tofu over any fake 'meat'.

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                                I’m not a good barometer for this since I pretty much like everything, but I like them. I just bought some vegetarian bacon and it was good. I’m not quite ready to stop eating meat, and I probably won’t ever fully stop, but I do plan on reducing it greatly over the next few years. I’m starting with pork since it’s the easiest one for me (bacon is about the only pork I eat regularly), cow is next, and then chicken which is the hardest one for me but it’s also the ones who suffer the most. I’m starting to buy cage free only eggs. I know the birds still live in bad conditions, but at least they are better conditions somewhat than overcrowded cages.

                                I am looking for ethical farmers near me and I think I might have found one but I need to visit to make sure.

                                I do wish lab grown meats become viable soon but in the US, these so called capitalists are already moving to impede progress and market adoption.

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                                Morningstar for vegetarian bacon (you can just pop a few slices in the microwave for like 90 seconds), Lightlife for hot dogs.

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                                  Imitation stuff made from pea protein and coconut oil is surprisingly good. It pan fries just fine. It's chewy and meaty. It doesn't have the exact taste and texture of beef but it makes a burger.

                                  I tried some mycelium based bacon recently. It was interesting. I've since bought it like 3 more times. It scratches the bacon itch without tasting like death. I hear that there are more mycelium based products out there that are gaining traction and I submitted requests to my local grocery store to carry those products.

                                  Quorn is awesome for chicken nuggets. Frankly I prefer them to the real thing.

                                  Beyond as a brand needs to fucking die. Their products suck. Their markup is excessive and makes their products cost far more than the equivalent meat products. Their stock is teetering on the brink of oblivion and I say end it. I recall them pushing for beyond orange chicken at panda express and they wanted to charge a premium for it. Then they wondered "why didnt anyone want this?" Because you charged more for an inferior product you fuckheads. Price your products *below* the meat products you replace and you'll see astronomical sales - especially when herds are culled because of sickness.

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                                  Their products suck. Their markup is excessive and makes their products cost far more than the equivalent meat products.

                                  This seems overly harsh to me. I've bought plenty of Beyond products (and Impossible, and Morning Star, and many other plant-based meat alternative brands) over the years and I've found them to be fine in terms of quality. I haven't bought them in a while, but I don't recall them being particularly more expensive than the other plant-based meats in the grocery store. Though I virtually always wait for those to go on a good sale before I buy them.

                                  Since plant-based alternatives are competing with the meat industry, which is heavily subsidized to keep meat costs artificially low, I wouldn't say it's fair to say Beyond's products being more expensive than regular meat is why their business is failing. Other plant-based meats I've tried have generally always been more expensive than regular meat.

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                                    Recently tried an Impossible burger and nuggets and thought that if nobody told me it wasn't meat, I'd have thought the patty was made out of a weird kind of meat, rather than make a connection with the taste and texture of plants. Honestly, I might not complain if that was the only kind of "meat" I could have for the rest of my life.

                                    Well, maybe I'd miss bacon.

                                    I've yet to find the opportunity to try lab-grown meat, but I for sure would like to try it out and don't see much wrong with it as long as it's sustainable, reasonably priced, and doesn't have anything you wouldn't expect in a normal piece of meat.

                                    Also, with imitation and lab-grown options, I'd no longer have to deal with the disgust factor of handling raw meat (esp. the juices) or biting into gristle. I'll happily devour a hot dog, but something about an unexpected bit of cartilage gives me a lingering sense of revulsion.

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                                    I used to unsure about the idea of lab grown meat ..... but now I think they would be fine. I haven't seen any in my area yet.

                                    Lab grown meats couldn't be any worse than the horrendous things we feed and do to the animals (large animals, birds and fish) we eat already.

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                                      Recently tried an Impossible burger and nuggets and thought that if nobody told me it wasn't meat, I'd have thought the patty was made out of a weird kind of meat, rather than make a connection with the taste and texture of plants. Honestly, I might not complain if that was the only kind of "meat" I could have for the rest of my life.

                                      Well, maybe I'd miss bacon.

                                      I've yet to find the opportunity to try lab-grown meat, but I for sure would like to try it out and don't see much wrong with it as long as it's sustainable, reasonably priced, and doesn't have anything you wouldn't expect in a normal piece of meat.

                                      Also, with imitation and lab-grown options, I'd no longer have to deal with the disgust factor of handling raw meat (esp. the juices) or biting into gristle. I'll happily devour a hot dog, but something about an unexpected bit of cartilage gives me a lingering sense of revulsion.

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                                      I think the texture thing with impossible burgers has to do with cooking them a certain way. I've had them at restaurants where the texture was great and others where it was abysmal. I don't bother with them at home.

                                      I'm delighted for more options, though I'm mostly past the point of wanting a substitute for a certain type of meat; I just want more vegetarian options. For decades, the only vegetarian options most restaurants had were salad or pasta tossed with whatever vegetables they had left over in the kitchen, both of which you knew were quick and cheap options for the restaurant and which you'd have to pay close to the same amount as the meat dishes. There were more options for ethnic vegetarian food, but a lot of them don't have much texture (seriously, what is with so much Indian food) or are either bland or over-spiced. The over-spiced thing goes to some of the frozen foods as well - looking at you, Amy's.

                                      Regardless, it's nice to be able to go to a restaurant and have actual options, or go to a grocery store and not being reduced to looking at the tofu and beans again.

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                                        Recently tried an Impossible burger and nuggets and thought that if nobody told me it wasn't meat, I'd have thought the patty was made out of a weird kind of meat, rather than make a connection with the taste and texture of plants. Honestly, I might not complain if that was the only kind of "meat" I could have for the rest of my life.

                                        Well, maybe I'd miss bacon.

                                        I've yet to find the opportunity to try lab-grown meat, but I for sure would like to try it out and don't see much wrong with it as long as it's sustainable, reasonably priced, and doesn't have anything you wouldn't expect in a normal piece of meat.

                                        Also, with imitation and lab-grown options, I'd no longer have to deal with the disgust factor of handling raw meat (esp. the juices) or biting into gristle. I'll happily devour a hot dog, but something about an unexpected bit of cartilage gives me a lingering sense of revulsion.

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                                        If the taste, texture, and price are good, I'll eat it.

                                        That goes for plant based stuff and meat replacements, too. I've tried the Impossible burger on a BK Whopper and thought it was plenty passable as a fast food burger patty... But it was a few bucks extra, so now that my curiosity is sated, I probably won't buy another until it's the same price as or cheaper than its animal-product counterpart.

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                                          Recently tried an Impossible burger and nuggets and thought that if nobody told me it wasn't meat, I'd have thought the patty was made out of a weird kind of meat, rather than make a connection with the taste and texture of plants. Honestly, I might not complain if that was the only kind of "meat" I could have for the rest of my life.

                                          Well, maybe I'd miss bacon.

                                          I've yet to find the opportunity to try lab-grown meat, but I for sure would like to try it out and don't see much wrong with it as long as it's sustainable, reasonably priced, and doesn't have anything you wouldn't expect in a normal piece of meat.

                                          Also, with imitation and lab-grown options, I'd no longer have to deal with the disgust factor of handling raw meat (esp. the juices) or biting into gristle. I'll happily devour a hot dog, but something about an unexpected bit of cartilage gives me a lingering sense of revulsion.

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                                          I enjoy most of them, will eat them if they're cheap enough. Though I prefer tempeh, seitan, and frozen tofu over stuff that tries to be meat. Quality varies from mediocre to better than the real stuff

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