US to withdraw from NATO under Republican bill
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He's preparing to attack the Baltics.
Based on news lately cracks on Russian economy start to show and their meat grinder in Ukraine crawls forward with massive casualties. At this rate they can't attack a garden shed.
Putin himself can preparen and wish to conquer whatever he wants but as long as the little remains what's left of Soviet Union might is scattered around Ukraine, Russia can't really do anything. If Europe can't get their shit together and Russia eventually wins (after several years at this pace) in Ukraine it would still take years to build up any kind of military force against anyone and even then they'd need to fight against whole EU and whatever remains are left of NATO.
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If the US leaves NATO, Europe would lose a lot of support.
If the US stays in NATO, they would refuse to support them anyway and could use their veto power to stop any potential action.
If they're not going to have the support of the US military either way, and the US staying in NATO could prevent the organization from taking any action at all, it may be in the best interest of Europe for the US to leave NATO so they can't cripple it from within.
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Hope, this doesn't go anywhere. NATO is frail as it is.
I don't know if a US less NATO would be that frail, it would absolutely shrink the alliance, but that can make it more flexible, being able to re form to Europe's new needs, rather than as an extension of the US military
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Another Russian shill?
Well, a Republican, so yes.
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What's next? Helping Russia in their wars? I hope it was fucking worth it to "own the libs."
Next is Canada and Greenland, then on to Europe where I will meet big daddy Putin in the middle.
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Yes, please. I'm sick of my country working with these degenerates yankees
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Look how stupid your country is, to hand the death of NATO to Putin because you’re on his side.
Thanks for the war and death and heat, Americans.
Fuck you.
Thanks for the war and death and heat, Americans.
Casting the first stone from paradise, eh?
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Next is Canada and Greenland, then on to Europe where I will meet big daddy Putin in the middle.
China could also attack Taiwan. That'll go much smoother when USA is alone and distracted
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I don't know if a US less NATO would be that frail, it would absolutely shrink the alliance, but that can make it more flexible, being able to re form to Europe's new needs, rather than as an extension of the US military
Sure, that could be a consequence in the long run, but it would be pretty bad for our immediate situation.
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If they're going to withdraw then why are they strong arming all the other nations to spending 5% GDP on defense? If they're not in NATO, who gives a fuck what they want?
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If they're going to withdraw then why are they strong arming all the other nations to spending 5% GDP on defense? If they're not in NATO, who gives a fuck what they want?
Probably because they want those 5% GDP spent for contracts with the 'murican military industrial complex.
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Probably because they want those 5% GDP spent for contracts with the 'murican military industrial complex.
But that's definitely (hopefully?) not going to happen if they pull out of NATO.
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I don't know if a US less NATO would be that frail, it would absolutely shrink the alliance, but that can make it more flexible, being able to re form to Europe's new needs, rather than as an extension of the US military
What's more, we wouldn't be dragged into the US' imperialist shit anymore. Well, hopefully.
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Thanks for the war and death and heat, Americans.
Casting the first stone from paradise, eh?
Americans have been burning paradise. Sit yout ass down and be quiet.
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This bill is going nowhere, and Trump just said at the summit that he would honor article 5.
I know Trump often changes his mind, but the summit showed that Trump has definitely changed course for the better regarding NATO.Bullshit. This isn't the game you play with the orange turd.
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But that's definitely (hopefully?) not going to happen if they pull out of NATO.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Never underestimate the corruption and stupidity of European politicians. "Divide and conquer" works like a charm on most of our corrupt assholes.
See the stupid opportunist fuck that the Germans elected chancellor. His (our
) government is pushing for the use of the Palantir(!) software from fucking uber-Nazi-piece-of-shit Thiel in German administrations. -
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I’m in no way supporting Russia or Republicans when I say this but NATO since its inception has been used for Western imperialist goals and establishing US global hegemony, so in no way do I support its existence anymore
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I’m in no way supporting Russia or Republicans when I say this but NATO since its inception has been used for Western imperialist goals and establishing US global hegemony, so in no way do I support its existence anymore
You are in every way supporting both Russia and the Republicans saying that. If It wasn't for nato, the Baltic states and maybe even some central European countries wouldn't exist by now.
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For the other nations in nato it would be for the best (imo obviously). Republican usa is not a reliable ally and the other nato nations have not all come to terms with that new reality yet. If the usa quits nato, then it instantly removes all doubt and the remaining nations of NATO can immediately start work on improving the alliance, instead of being stuck in limbo for a few more years while they're hoping that the usa will somehow magically unfuck itself.
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I keep getting this sinking feeling that this is all leading up to a precise and coordinated attack of evil.
Russia bombards the EU, the US attacks Greenland and Canada, while Israel finally bulldozes Gaza and Iran. China takes Taiwan and the south sea.
All at the same time so NATO is overwhelmed and can’t decisively defend it all without risking spreading too thin. No matter what happens, one of the bad guys gains ground.
I honestly have no idea if this is even possible, it’s based on a dream I had a few weeks ago.
Disturbing thought though.
