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    Meanwhile, Putin and Russia is cheering this on. The parties they are going to throw are going to be absolutely epic. You’ve heard the party of the decade, you’ve heard of the party of the century, get ready for the party of the millennium.

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      We really need to examine this need people have to blame Russia for everything. Do you blame Russia when your dryer loses a sock too? It's fascinating to me.

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      Are we, including or excluding that it’s all, but been confirmed that he is a Russian asset ?whether it’s willing or unwilling remains to be seen.

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      • prior_industry@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

        And yet the UK is buying more American jets 🤦

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        UK is 15% of the F35a supply chain, and 20,000 UK jobs are involved. This decision helps UK too.
        I will bet however, that overall, there will be less international money spent with the American MIC, but concede that number will be greater than zero.

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          Good....GOOD. Immigrants in EU welcome! 😁

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          Having NATO fall apart is the worst thing in the world for democracy, the only person who is cheering this on is Putin and the people who Putin.

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            NATOs other purpose is to stop socialism/communism from existing and emerging anywhere, unjustifiably. The Soviet Union wasn’t going to take over Europe, that was a lie created by the US and others. The US was the aggressor during the Cold war working overtime to sabotage any socialist nation because of “freedoms” and “democracy.”

            Russia has been a capitalist country since the fall of the USSR (goal accomplished I guess) but the West has still wanted to destroy them even before the Ukraine conflict. Yes what Russia is doing is wrong and they need to be stopped, but also the US, EU, and NATO.

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            Yep. Definitely a Pootin troll.

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              Putin is famously the president of the Russian Republic, very different from the Soviet Union. I don't know why you thinking me criticising what Russia has become somehow makes me Russian?

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              Promoting ruzzian talking points EXACTLY, makes you soulless ruzzian orc, stupid Yuri.

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                Trump is not the US. by advocating for the US to leave NATO you weaken the stability of NATO.

                Putin and his lackeys directly benefit from a weak NATO and thus anyone who willingly advocates for the weakening of NATO is either

                1. a Russian shill
                2. too stupid to realize they are shilling for Russia

                I'm not in support of Trump, y'all just keep pushing that narrative on me. which honestly only convinces me you're part of group 1.

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                Sound like ruzzian, spruike shit like a ruzzian, probably is a ruzzian.
                I bet you stink of beets, cigarettes, cheap vodka and urine.

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                  I feel sorry for your 1 brain cell.

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                  My one brain cell is sad that you have already been reduced to stupid dad insults LOL.
                  Please bathe next time you're sober. You smell like piss.

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                    If we attack the USA, can I get some land in North Carolina?

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                    ... like, as a punishment, and you volunteer?

                    (jk, the forests are nice)

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                      We really need to examine this need people have to blame Russia for everything. Do you blame Russia when your dryer loses a sock too? It's fascinating to me.

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                      I might if Russia had a vested interest in taking my socks, and the dryer had a history of justifying Russia's sock stealing.

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                        Oh boy this Putin guy sounds powerful! He must have 64 bit washing machine CPUs!

                        Never take responsibility for the state of your society and country.

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                        This dude acts like his country's shit don't stink.

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                          I might if Russia had a vested interest in taking my socks, and the dryer had a history of justifying Russia's sock stealing.

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                          That's a load bearing "if", holy cow.

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                            This is disingenuous at best, Russian bot most likely

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                            I'm just some guy that doesn't like Europe being reliant on the US and I am also against Russia

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                              That's a load bearing "if", holy cow.

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                              What the fuck are you talking about?

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                                You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into

                                everyone except Russia gains from it. China, North Korea, and Iran get to have Russia owe them a lot

                                Russia loses second most, with not much to win. 30% more wheat production is not a reason for war.

                                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wheat_production

                                Of course, Ukraine loses most. Indepted, lost territory and huge amount of death.

                                China owes Russia a lot because China is the ultimate objective. Russia could fold, have new elections and join Nato.

                                North Korea wins big, mostly for Russia stopping participation in sanctions. An advantage for Russia.

                                'Europe', or rather Germany loses third most because all profits from industrial products and benefits from cheap energy moves to China. Russia wasn't threatening, an economic union suggested by Putin was possible.

                                US wins the most, by far. The US feels threatened by the Eurasian Union even though the EU is deeply linked with the US. Many major advisers argued against Nato expansion and they still did it. What's their offer to Germany so that Germany accepted the Nato and EU expansion to Ukraine?

                                We can’t look at the past with the understanding we have now and think they knew this would happen though. They made it clear they expected an easy victory.

                                They told their soldiers about the easy victory.

                                Do you think they didn't know about the Ukraine fortifications built since 2014? Have you seen their faces when they announced the 'operation'? They had to take Grozny. Why should Kyiv fall in 3 days?

                                Have you looked at the book? This conflict is in the making for a long time. Putin tried to win over Germany with cheap gas to become part of the West and avoid the conflict but Merkel betrayed him and just took the gas without changing the original goals.

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                                We can’t look at the past with the understanding we have now and think they knew this would happen though. They made it clear they expected an easy victory.

                                They told their soldiers about the easy victory.

                                Do you think they didn't know about the Ukraine fortifications built since 2014? Have you seen their faces when they announced the 'operation'? They had to take Grozny. Why should Kyiv fall in 3 days?

                                You don't send your best troops into a position they can't get out of if you don't expect results. Sure, after the collapse of the government there's still going to be some fighting, but they thought they could take out the government in one swift blow.

                                Have you looked at the book? This conflict is in the making for a long time. Putin tried to win over Germany with cheap gas to become part of the West and avoid the conflict but Merkel betrayed him and just took the gas without changing the original goals.

                                Yes, it's been coming for a long time. Obviously. If it wasn't Ukraine it'd be something else. Russia was always going to push something to the point where other nations wouldn't let them anymore. It's not like Ukraine is the first sovereign nation they've invaded. It also wouldn't have been the last. Germany has not "taken" their gas though. They are still purchasing it, which is dumb because it increases they amount the need to spend in Ukraine, but it is what it is. If only they hadn't shut down those nuclear reactors a few years ago...

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                                  What the fuck are you talking about?

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                                  He's wanted to use that "load bearing" line for a while now.

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                                    Are we, including or excluding that it’s all, but been confirmed that he is a Russian asset ?whether it’s willing or unwilling remains to be seen.

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                                    Let's pretend he isn't a Russian asset. What would he do differently upon becoming one? At this point, being a Russian asset is the better explanation for his actions. If he isn't, he's making a lot of dumb decisions that benefit Putin and hurt the US and her allies.

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                                      Education... educated people think about things. Above all, when is the best time to have a child in terms of financial situation etc. Political and world events etc. can also be taken into consideration. .
                                      Meanwhile, the uneducated have the 4-5 child.
                                      The educated now have the problem of age and have waited too long/thought about the fact that having a child is no longer an option.

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                                      that take is from the movie Idiocracy, and is not a fact

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                                        Mike Lee is a notoriously despicable person even by GOP standards and the bill doesn't have any legs. Like, just a week ago he said terrible things about the Minnasotan politicians who were shot dead in their homes, and he's also the one who was pushing to sell off public lands (which he was bullied out of; also seems to be in the pocket of the Mormon cult).

                                        The US stance on NATO is complicated under the current US regime but I doubt it'll be by this assholes bill.

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                                          I think you know I'm more shocked you actually wanna live in on the Carolinas

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                                          Seems nice. I'll annex the North one I think.

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