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  • Y [email protected]

    Oh let's get pedantic!

    The curved edges technically have infinite "side".

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    #104

    Hey, that's my job!

    Also I don't think that's technically the technical classification. I think that sidedness is an attribute that simply doesnt apply to curves.
    You can approximate curves with some number of sides, and the approximation gets more accurate as the number approaches infinity, but it doesn't actually have the infinite sides.

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    • joel_feila@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

      The interior angles need to be equal 🤓

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      #105

      Here you can see how things go haywire when skipping minor parts of definitions.

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        Hey, that's my job!

        Also I don't think that's technically the technical classification. I think that sidedness is an attribute that simply doesnt apply to curves.
        You can approximate curves with some number of sides, and the approximation gets more accurate as the number approaches infinity, but it doesn't actually have the infinite sides.

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        Very cool! I'm always happy to learn something new!

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          Hey, I failed the highest level of calculus possible. Twice.

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          I'll have you know that I passed the two lowest levels of calculus required for my degree. So you know, I'm something of an expert.

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            #108

            Not a polygon

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            • T [email protected]

              Okay, but... Why? Is that a theorem that I don't remember from school?

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              #109

              Take this shape as an example. The "square" in question consists of AC, BD, the outer AB, and the inner CD.

              Point (5) means that, since the lines AC and BD are radii of the concentric circles, the arcs AB and CD should have the same inner angle. That's because the angle COD is equal to AOB.

              Since, the inner angle is the same, then the outer AOB should, by definition, be 2π - (the inner AOB), because that's how radiants work; a circle is 2π rads.

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                Take this shape as an example. The "square" in question consists of AC, BD, the outer AB, and the inner CD.

                Point (5) means that, since the lines AC and BD are radii of the concentric circles, the arcs AB and CD should have the same inner angle. That's because the angle COD is equal to AOB.

                Since, the inner angle is the same, then the outer AOB should, by definition, be 2π - (the inner AOB), because that's how radiants work; a circle is 2π rads.

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                Thank you! But why arc CD and arc AB length should add to 2 PI? Or why does the angle COD times two is 2PI if that's what you meant?

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                  Thank you! But why arc CD and arc AB length should add to 2 PI? Or why does the angle COD times two is 2PI if that's what you meant?

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                  #111

                  Point (5) is not about the arcs' lengths. It's about the angle they create with the center.

                  Also, I never said that COD * 2 = 2π. I said (inner COD) + (outer COD) = 2π rads

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                  • Y [email protected]

                    Very cool! I'm always happy to learn something new!

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                    #112

                    I mean, I'm just pedantic; double check with a mathematician, to be sure lol

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                    • Q [email protected]

                      Rotate the cone towards you.

                      Now you see this. 🤯

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                      #113

                      uhhh, wait. Under what projection is OP's "square" reduced to an actual square

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                        uhhh, wait. Under what projection is OP's "square" reduced to an actual square

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                        #114

                        It's possible, but there needs to be a thickness in addition to the length and width.

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                        • P [email protected]

                          I mean, I'm just pedantic; double check with a mathematician, to be sure lol

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                          I'm genuinely curious, what is your job that requires arithmetic?

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                            I'm genuinely curious, what is your job that requires arithmetic?

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                            I feel like most jobs require arithmetic.
                            But it is not my career to be a pedant, just my role in life 😜

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                            • machinist@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                              It's possible, but there needs to be a thickness in addition to the length and width.

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                              Im gonna need more than that as an explanation. Sandwiches too if you're making some

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                              • M [email protected]

                                In that case, there's no need to specify anything about the angles. Or, the characterisation the meme is playing with: a shape with four straight sides of equal length and right angles. Adding parallel to the meme's version doesn't help.

                                I'm just tired of this thread. Not only do Lemmy users have this weird urge to show off their high school maths knowledge to dunk on a joke that obviously only works because OP played with the definition, but they're not even correct. The /r/mathmemes thread was much better.

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                                That weird urge is like 80% people feeling the need to correct OP's grammar, like birds do when they hear the wrong birdsong, as if there were anything at stake here.

                                Honestly, I wish people would play with definitions more. It's fun. And, unironically, you would be a much better mathematician than most of the know-it-alls here.

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                                • E [email protected]

                                  Counterexample: North and Southpole on Earth.

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                                  No, it's still accurate - the straight line goes through the center of the Earth. Only in coordinate systems where 'straight' is defined as following the curvature of a surface are there infinite lines between the North and South Poles... and that would be non-Euclidean geometry.

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                                    Okay, calm down Diogenes

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                                      Don't the internal angles need to be 90°? Two of those right angles aren't right angles on the inside.

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                                        #122

                                        Lines that intersect a circle like that aren't "right angles" tho, they're called "normal" to the circle - in other words pointing directly toward the center. A normal line is at right angles to a tangent line, but not to a curve.

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                                        • tetris11@feddit.ukT [email protected]

                                          Im gonna need more than that as an explanation. Sandwiches too if you're making some

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                                          Imagine you have a cookie cutter in that shape. Cut a cookie as thick as the chord of the largest arc.

                                          View the new vertical surface of the longest arc that is now a cylindrical section.

                                          Viola, square. 😁

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