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Just.....why?

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    It's the experience of a toothbrush collecting data about your daily routines to sell for profit.

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    Who is interested in that data other than Oral-B and their competitors though? Oral-B isn't collecting that data to sell to itself, and they certainly wouldn't want their competition using it

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      If it’s anything like mine, it works just fine without the app. The app just does brush tracking and shit. I don’t need any of that, so I never set it up. But I suspect even if I had, it would still let me use it without being logged into the app.

      I suspect the same is true here. That the function of the toothbrush is available regardless of whether it’s logging data to your phone.

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      The function is available for now.

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        I am what you would call a technology enthusiast, or what some people have dubbed as a gadget whore. I love little electronic devices that make my life easier. However, at no time in my life, will I ever need or desire a toothbrush that needs WiFi access or a subscription to some service. It really isn’t necessary or even useful. It’s like the old comic about the toilet that needs a phone app.

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        • S [email protected]

          You joke, but I guarantee there's a market. Consider health insurance companies that see an opportunity to charge everyone more unless they can prove their good brushing habits via app data.

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          I think it's a conspiracy theory. The vast majority of people use manual brushes. Of those who use electric ones, a majority use dumb ones. Of those who use smart ones, some people don't use the app. Or don't bother opening the app every time they brush. Those who register probably don't provide insurance info. The data they collect is basically useless for individual cases, and definitely useless on a bigger scale.

          My take is that it's a gimmick to help sell you more expensive brushes when you are browsing and comparing them.

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            I think it's a conspiracy theory. The vast majority of people use manual brushes. Of those who use electric ones, a majority use dumb ones. Of those who use smart ones, some people don't use the app. Or don't bother opening the app every time they brush. Those who register probably don't provide insurance info. The data they collect is basically useless for individual cases, and definitely useless on a bigger scale.

            My take is that it's a gimmick to help sell you more expensive brushes when you are browsing and comparing them.

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            It's not about user-led synergy. The personal data market is slurped up by those that already have and are building correlations. Just because a user didn't report anything to their insurer doesn't mean an insurer sure as shit isn't going to want the data if they can link it to the user whatsoever, so long as it will make them more money.

            This is hypothetical, of course, but it's the way the market of data brokers works.

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              Right? I buy only open-source wifi toothbrushes. Still waiting on the year of the Linux toothbrush, tbh

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              If you can't run Doom on it, is it really your toothbrush?

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                I mean, it looks more like you got logged out of your app.

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                For now.

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                • B [email protected]

                  Who is interested in that data other than Oral-B and their competitors though? Oral-B isn't collecting that data to sell to itself, and they certainly wouldn't want their competition using it

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                  You see, they'll sell this information to your health insurance company, so that your premium will increase if they think you brush too seldom or not thoroughly enough.

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                  • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                    If you meet a man who has been logged out of his toothbrush, do not mourn him. He has chosen thus. He is exactly where he has desired to be.

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                    But any man's toothbrush logout diminishes me

                    Because I am involved in brushing my teeth

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                    • K [email protected]

                      Just kidding, I use home assistant and my oral-b toothbrush broadcasts using BLE, which Is capture using the oral-b integration. You don’t need to be logged in.

                      Oh god I hope this is sarcasm. I'm good with my old, dumb oral-b that does nothing but brush my fucking teeth.

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                      The oral-b integration has been installed by 13,611 users.

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                      • B [email protected]

                        Who is interested in that data other than Oral-B and their competitors though? Oral-B isn't collecting that data to sell to itself, and they certainly wouldn't want their competition using it

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                        The amount of information that can be inferred, especially when coupled with more data from other "brokers", is crazy. You might be flagged as a depressed person if you skip brushing some/most days. The time you wake up and go to work might be an indication of your social status, together with how often you replace the head.

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                        • C [email protected]

                          You see, they'll sell this information to your health insurance company, so that your premium will increase if they think you brush too seldom or not thoroughly enough.

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                          Exactly this, but it will be sold the other way around, you'll get a gift or a discount if you log+link data

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                            Suspicious activity has been detected in your toothbrush in Hong Kong. Your account has been locked for your security.

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                            For brushing in Asia, please upgrade your Oral-B account to the Oral-B premium account for just 5 € / month!

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                              Escalator temporarily stairs

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                                It's not about user-led synergy. The personal data market is slurped up by those that already have and are building correlations. Just because a user didn't report anything to their insurer doesn't mean an insurer sure as shit isn't going to want the data if they can link it to the user whatsoever, so long as it will make them more money.

                                This is hypothetical, of course, but it's the way the market of data brokers works.

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                                Yeah, my understanding is that companies generate this data and just sell it unprocessed to data harvesting companies who link it with other data they’ve been sold. Companies seeking targeted info can then request data with varying levels of depth.

                                Like a company may request a list of emails of users who are very good (or bad) about brushing their teeth everyday to target ads at

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                                  I found a 350€ OralB toothbrush in a shop recently in France.

                                  I couldn't believe the amount of bullshit you have to cram in to up a toothbrush to that level of price.

                                  Pic :

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                                    Because people are dumb and buy these shitty products.

                                    I want a smart watch, but none do what I want without an account so I don't own that ether.

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                                      I am what you would call a technology enthusiast, or what some people have dubbed as a gadget whore. I love little electronic devices that make my life easier. However, at no time in my life, will I ever need or desire a toothbrush that needs WiFi access or a subscription to some service. It really isn’t necessary or even useful. It’s like the old comic about the toilet that needs a phone app.

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                                      But then how will you download the latest pulse patterns? You could be missing out on a more optimal brushing experience.

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                                        I found a 350€ OralB toothbrush in a shop recently in France.

                                        I couldn't believe the amount of bullshit you have to cram in to up a toothbrush to that level of price.

                                        Pic :

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                                        My sister, a dentistry student, got one in a promo event. It glows when you walk by to remind you to brush. Drove me nuts.

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                                          I am what you would call a technology enthusiast, or what some people have dubbed as a gadget whore. I love little electronic devices that make my life easier. However, at no time in my life, will I ever need or desire a toothbrush that needs WiFi access or a subscription to some service. It really isn’t necessary or even useful. It’s like the old comic about the toilet that needs a phone app.

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                                          Reminds me of my Dyson fan. When I put it away for the season the battery inside the remote leaked and the remote is dead now. So I download the Dyson remote control app. There’s only an on button on the fan itself, so in order to sync my phone to the fan i need the original remote to navigate the settings and go to “sync”

                                          So my dead remote is required to activate any other remote

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