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    Bluetooth is so bad on Windows. You cannot simply "reconnect" a headset

    You have to unpair and pair each time you want to use it.

    This was with Intel Bluetooth too which works extremely well, under Linux and Macos.

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    I'm no great fan of windows, but I have no issues reconnecting to bluetooth things. Kinda the opposite really, my phone and windows keep wanting to compete for who gets to be connected to my headset as soon as I turn it on, I have to make sure to turn off bluetooth when I'm done with it. I think the problem may be on your end in this case.

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    • darkdarkhouse@lemmy.sdf.orgD [email protected]

      My main issue with Windows isn’t its technology, but its attitude. The user is no longer the most important consideration. In that way it’s become adversarial.

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      Windows is fine for me. I work with it all day long too. But yeah Windows is just another enshitification product.

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        Maybe I should have specified print to PDF.

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        It sounds like you might have some network places set up for windows to use but that are no longer reachable (or something along those lines) because that shouldn't be taking so long so you might have things timing out in the background.

        Or your internet is slow and it's taking a long time to communicate with one drive or send its screenshots of your document to their creep department.

        Or maybe a print driver that no longer exists still has an orphaned entry in the registry and it spends some time trying to locate it.

        Or malware has set up hooks for any new window that pops up but the print to pdf dialog is set up in such a way that it churns very inefficiently on that window specifically.

        I joke but any one of those might actually be what's going on.

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        • S [email protected]

          2-4 citations are required for the simplest college essay and you've provide only one. You can look that up, but that would mean the onus of finding the citation for citations would be on you, and you've made it clear how you feel about that.

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          Are you perchance US american? Because you sound like one. This is lemmy, we're trying to eschew a significant portion of the bad habits on reddit, be better. Also, I did your work for you, y'er welcome.

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          • B [email protected]

            Bluetooth is so bad on Windows. You cannot simply "reconnect" a headset

            You have to unpair and pair each time you want to use it.

            This was with Intel Bluetooth too which works extremely well, under Linux and Macos.

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            I will say I had a lot of trouble with Bluetooth (bluez) on Linux, but I think it mainly comes down to the implementation. I have a cheap dongle and pairing gamepads has been a nightmare sometimes.

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              Are you perchance US american? Because you sound like one. This is lemmy, we're trying to eschew a significant portion of the bad habits on reddit, be better. Also, I did your work for you, y'er welcome.

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              You really believe a single Google search is work? Have you ever had to do real work?

              I have no problem providing a source for esoteric, difficult to find information, but when someone is literally too lazy to type into Google the precise same thing they're typing into a comment field they can whine until they're blue in the face before I'll do it for them. If you don't like that you should complain to the manager.

              I'm sad for you that you waste your time and energy hating Americans. Maybe you need a hobby,.

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                I've been using Linux exclusively for about 8 years. Recently I got frustrated with a bunch of issues that popped one after another. I had a spare SSD so I decided to check out Windows again. I've installed Windows 11 LTSC. It was a nightmare. After all the years on Linux, I forgot how terrible Windows actually is.

                On the day I installed the system and a bunch of basic software, I had two bluescreens. I wasn't even doing anything at that time, just going through basic settings and software installation. Okay, it happens. So I installed Steam and tried to play a game I've been currently playing on Linux just to see the performance difference. And it was... worse, for some reason. The "autodetect" in game changed my settings from Ultra to High. On Linux, the game was running at the 75 fps cap all the time. Windows kept dropping them to around 67-ish a lot of times. But the weirdest part was actual power consumption and the way GPU worked. Both systems kept the GPU temperature at around 50C. But the fans were running at 100% speed at that temperature on Windows, while Linux kept them pretty quiet. I had to change the fan controls by myself on Windows just because it was so annoying. The power consumption difference was even harder to explain, as I was getting 190-210W under Linux and under Windows I got 220-250W. And mind you, under Linux I had not only higher graphical settings set up, but was also getting better performance.

                I tried connecting my bluetooth earbuds to my PC. Alright, the setup itself was fine. But then the problems started. My earbuds support opus codec for audio. Do you think I can change the bluetooth codec easily, just like on Linux? Nope. There is no way to do it without some third party programs. And don't even get me started on Windows randomly changing my default audio output and trying to play sound through my controller.

                Today I decided to make this rant-post after yet another game crashed on me twice under Windows. I bought Watch Dogs since it's currently really cheap on Steam. I click play. I get the loading screen. The game crashed. I try again. I play through the basic "tutorial". After going out of the building, game crashed again. I'm going to play again, this time under Linux.

                I've had my share of frustrations under Linux, but that experience made me realise that Windows is not a perfect solution either. Spending a lot of time with Linux and it's bugs made me forget all the bad experience in the past with Windows, and I was craving to go back to the "just works" solution. But it's not "just works". Two days was all it took for me to realize that I'll actually stick with Linux, probably forever. The spare SSD went back to my drawer, maybe so I can try something new in the future. It's so good to be back after a short trip to the other side!

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                Yeah when I see people say that gaming on Linux "isn't there yet" I have to wonder how long it's been since they've tried. And people who install Windows on their Steam Deck? Don't get it.

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                • W [email protected]

                  You know what just works ? Bazzite. It's as easy to use as a PlayStation.

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                  You can also use it for everything else. It can be as easy to use as a PlayStation if that's what you want it for.

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                    I tried connecting my bluetooth earbuds to my PC. Alright, the setup itself was fine. But then the problems started. My earbuds support opus codec for audio. Do you think I can change the bluetooth codec easily, just like on Linux? Nope. There is no way to do it without some third party programs. And don’t even get me started on Windows randomly changing my default audio output and trying to play sound through my controller.

                    Bro wait until you want to use them for a call. How do you tell it to switch to call mode when it won't by default. Ah yeah that's right, you can't. And if you do, good luck switching it back for music when you're done. I've had friends who got bluetooth headphones and tried to use them wireless on Windows and it's just a battle every single time

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                    I just recently learned this when I tried to take a Teams call (ugh) with my Bluetooth earbuds, only to find that the microphone worked, but I couldn't hear anything.

                    Turned out, by default, it had set the input as headset mode, but the output as stereo headphone mode, so I couldn't hear anything.

                    Because that makes sense.

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                    • B [email protected]

                      Bluetooth is so bad on Windows. You cannot simply "reconnect" a headset

                      You have to unpair and pair each time you want to use it.

                      This was with Intel Bluetooth too which works extremely well, under Linux and Macos.

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                      I had to transfer files over Bluetooth to a Windows PC. Fuck that is terrible compared to doing it on my Linux PC.

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                        Yep. The difference is simply put just ppl are used to the quirks on Windows but not on Linux.

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                        Exactly. It took me 4 hours a couple months ago to get a scanner to work on our Windows 11 PC. It turns out there was some Windows Image Acquisition service built in that had to be disabled because it was conflicting with the driver of the scanner. Absolute insanity lmao

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                        • S [email protected]

                          You really believe a single Google search is work? Have you ever had to do real work?

                          I have no problem providing a source for esoteric, difficult to find information, but when someone is literally too lazy to type into Google the precise same thing they're typing into a comment field they can whine until they're blue in the face before I'll do it for them. If you don't like that you should complain to the manager.

                          I'm sad for you that you waste your time and energy hating Americans. Maybe you need a hobby,.

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                          I don't hate US americans but I'll gladly make an exception for you, a well deserved one I must say.

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                          • lorty@lemmygrad.mlL [email protected]

                            I'm not unsatisfied and I very much appreciate the work put into proton, but it's rather lame how common it is to have small problems that require tweaking. Just a few days ago I had to do the gamemode thingy(which slightly improves performance and tends to fix some performance issues) on Elden ring since I was getting small but noticeable stutters when moving about, and that's a verified game.

                            I don't mind putting in a bit of work to get something specific I want set up, but there's a reason people want things to just work when it comes to their pastimes, and I feel Linux is still a bit far from that.

                            PS: I have no idea if Bazzite and other gaming distros have this issues, I use a general use one.

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                            I really can't answer that either I'm afraid, as I'm using one of the "gaming distros" (Garuda Linux) and just haven't had anything but good luck with it really. I tried Bazzite on my laptop, but was having some nvidia driver issues and decided to try Garuda before diving into trying to fix it and, well, Garuda "just worked". The last general use distro I used was Manjaro probably 5ish years ago and I hated it, had nothing but troubles (and have since learned that Manjaro is kind of notorious for falling apart).

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                            • B [email protected]

                              It sounds like you might have some network places set up for windows to use but that are no longer reachable (or something along those lines) because that shouldn't be taking so long so you might have things timing out in the background.

                              Or your internet is slow and it's taking a long time to communicate with one drive or send its screenshots of your document to their creep department.

                              Or maybe a print driver that no longer exists still has an orphaned entry in the registry and it spends some time trying to locate it.

                              Or malware has set up hooks for any new window that pops up but the print to pdf dialog is set up in such a way that it churns very inefficiently on that window specifically.

                              I joke but any one of those might actually be what's going on.

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                              Heh thanks, but it’s just that I’m printing 2000+sqft of high res pdfs from hundreds of gigs of files at a time.

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                                I've been using Linux exclusively for about 8 years. Recently I got frustrated with a bunch of issues that popped one after another. I had a spare SSD so I decided to check out Windows again. I've installed Windows 11 LTSC. It was a nightmare. After all the years on Linux, I forgot how terrible Windows actually is.

                                On the day I installed the system and a bunch of basic software, I had two bluescreens. I wasn't even doing anything at that time, just going through basic settings and software installation. Okay, it happens. So I installed Steam and tried to play a game I've been currently playing on Linux just to see the performance difference. And it was... worse, for some reason. The "autodetect" in game changed my settings from Ultra to High. On Linux, the game was running at the 75 fps cap all the time. Windows kept dropping them to around 67-ish a lot of times. But the weirdest part was actual power consumption and the way GPU worked. Both systems kept the GPU temperature at around 50C. But the fans were running at 100% speed at that temperature on Windows, while Linux kept them pretty quiet. I had to change the fan controls by myself on Windows just because it was so annoying. The power consumption difference was even harder to explain, as I was getting 190-210W under Linux and under Windows I got 220-250W. And mind you, under Linux I had not only higher graphical settings set up, but was also getting better performance.

                                I tried connecting my bluetooth earbuds to my PC. Alright, the setup itself was fine. But then the problems started. My earbuds support opus codec for audio. Do you think I can change the bluetooth codec easily, just like on Linux? Nope. There is no way to do it without some third party programs. And don't even get me started on Windows randomly changing my default audio output and trying to play sound through my controller.

                                Today I decided to make this rant-post after yet another game crashed on me twice under Windows. I bought Watch Dogs since it's currently really cheap on Steam. I click play. I get the loading screen. The game crashed. I try again. I play through the basic "tutorial". After going out of the building, game crashed again. I'm going to play again, this time under Linux.

                                I've had my share of frustrations under Linux, but that experience made me realise that Windows is not a perfect solution either. Spending a lot of time with Linux and it's bugs made me forget all the bad experience in the past with Windows, and I was craving to go back to the "just works" solution. But it's not "just works". Two days was all it took for me to realize that I'll actually stick with Linux, probably forever. The spare SSD went back to my drawer, maybe so I can try something new in the future. It's so good to be back after a short trip to the other side!

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                                As somebody who works in IT at a Windows-only environment, I know exactly what you mean.

                                I have to fight with Windows on a weekly basis. Driver issues, firmware issues, software crashes/lockups, performance issues, etc etc.

                                Just this week, I have two users experiencing issues with their monitors. Identical enterprise grade laptops, identical drivers, identical docking stations, all totally up to date on Windows 11. Their old Windows 10 computers worked fine. Still trying to figure out what's wrong.

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                                  I just reinstalled and configured Windows for a friend who's machine was hacked, so my frustration with Microsoft is very fresh. (She lost 8 thousand dollars of her savings she's still trying to get back.) After years of using Linux I feel like I'm being punished every time I help someone with their Windows machine.

                                  /Rant

                                  These things in particular drive me nuts:

                                  • Sending everything users do and type (including passwords) back to Microsoft. It's called spyware when other companies do it.
                                  • Flooding 1/2 the screen with web results when a search is done from the start menu. I'm looking for an installed program, not a potato recipe.
                                  • Requiring a registry edit to turn that web search off and lots of other simple things that use to be configurable in settings.
                                  • Placing ads throughout the operating system and making it difficult to turn those ads off.
                                  • Forcing the use of the Edge browser no matter what users choose.
                                  • Preventing the removal of unwanted programs without editing the registry.
                                  • Forcing upgrades at Microsoft's convenience.
                                  • Force restarts of the operating system causing data loss for (likely) millions of users.
                                  • Removing more and more user settings with each new OS release.
                                  • Burying commonly used menu items multiple menus deep.
                                  • Preventing the removal of Start menu items. I will never use the Xbox Game Bar no matter how many time I'm forced to see it.

                                  /

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                                  Windows is so annoying like why does it always display word, excel etc when I don't own it. These are paid programs that I do not own they should not be coming up in search results when I'm looking for a word processor.

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                                    I had to transfer files over Bluetooth to a Windows PC. Fuck that is terrible compared to doing it on my Linux PC.

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                                    Oh yeah I just use magic wormhole now for file transfer it's much more reliable

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                                    • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

                                      Windows is so annoying like why does it always display word, excel etc when I don't own it. These are paid programs that I do not own they should not be coming up in search results when I'm looking for a word processor.

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                                      I used to work for a Fortune 500 tech company that dealt with thousands of other businesses. Someone on the executive team decided that everyone in the company should be actively pushing our products every time they had customer contact. Customer calls about a bill? Sell them something. They have a major problem and are angry about it? Sell them something. Need to use their bathroom? Sell them something.

                                      It just irritated our customers and didn't result in any more sales. It seems that executive got a job at Microsoft.

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                                        I used to work for a Fortune 500 tech company that dealt with thousands of other businesses. Someone on the executive team decided that everyone in the company should be actively pushing our products every time they had customer contact. Customer calls about a bill? Sell them something. They have a major problem and are angry about it? Sell them something. Need to use their bathroom? Sell them something.

                                        It just irritated our customers and didn't result in any more sales. It seems that executive got a job at Microsoft.

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                                        oh the times ive seen people at my work try an sell soemthing to an angry customer. It always fails and results in the customer being pissed off and insulted. It should be obvious that if someone is paying you to solve a problem and your software is not working and causing them to complain they are not in the mood to buy another thing to solve the problem they are already paying you to solve.

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                                        • B [email protected]

                                          Bluetooth is so bad on Windows. You cannot simply "reconnect" a headset

                                          You have to unpair and pair each time you want to use it.

                                          This was with Intel Bluetooth too which works extremely well, under Linux and Macos.

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                                          Windows Bluetooth paired my Google Pixel Buds Pro once and refused to unpair or delete them no matter what I tried, but would happily connect to them every time I booted the system. I had to literally wipe the install clean and start fresh before it was ever fixed. And those same earbuds worked everywhere else, even my fucking gaming laptop with a MediaTek wireless card running Arch. genuinely the worst experience I've had with Bluetooth so far.

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