Windows doesn't "just work"

[bastion@feddit.nl]

absofuckinglutely.

[bastion@feddit.nl]

the alternative to gstreamer. both were precursors to pipewire, which aims to meet both use cases.

[hawke@lemmy.world]

It’s not just your decision though. Like vaccinations, your decision affects everyone else so it’s not your decision alone.

[occasionallyferalya@lemmy.ml]

This is very unproductive for discussion

[morbidcactus@lemmy.ca]

Powershell, windows terminal and winget are all legitimately nice tools, powershell especially is just stupidly more powerful than it needs to be (and verb-noun syntax is great).

[occasionallyferalya@lemmy.ml]

What makes SUsE so good for you?

[corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca]

How did it play under Linux?

Look, I'd get my Mom to switch to linux if she still had a chance to play warcraft. Does it play on a rolling RPM release so I don't have to periodically reinstall the OS? I'm serious. This is almost the only reason I don't switch the family -- very particular games.

[sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml]

That sucks about your friend. I can relate.

Scammers hacked my elderly mother on her windows laptop. They tricked her with an ad saying there was a problem with her computer, and they had her install remote access software. She mentioned seeing the terminal so I assumed they installed (at least) a keylogger. Luckily, they either ran out of time, or their con took two days, but they said they were going to call my mom the next day and have her log in to the bank to make sure her computer was still working.

So, I wiped her computer and installed Linux Mint with auto updates set up. She only had one simple question about logging in to google chrome and that's been it for the last month. She has just been using it no problem.

Side note: The next day the scammers had the nerve to call my mom and ask her why her computer was turned off.

[corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca]

What if he used sign language and could still hold his breath?

[rekabis@lemmy.ca]

In that way it’s become adversarial.

Back in the 2000s, I was able to say that while a fundamental install took only about a half hour to set up, usability tweaks and a full fleshing out of functionality took another 4-8 hours depending on what the user was going to use the machine for.

I just did a Win11 24h2 install. It took nearly 24 working hours before I considered it even minimally functional for my needs. Cycling through Win10Privacy two or three times was particularly frustrating. Registry work alone took me a good 8-10 hours of trying stuff a step at a time and then rebooting to see how it worked.

At this point, the only reason why I am still running with a Windows rig is for those half-dozen programs that don’t have appropriate non-Windows variants. It’s why I’m also running a Mac Mini and an OpenSUSE tower through the same 4-port, 6-head KVM.

[nous@programming.dev]

You can cherry-pick examples of problems from every OS. That is my point. They all have issues that you may or may not encounter and quite a few that would make people from other OSs scratch their head and think what the hell the devs are thinking. Pointing out one issue of one OS does not change any of that.

[spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works]

Anyone who's so lazy they literally refuse to type the same words used in their comment into a search engine doesn't deserve to be taken seriously. There are lots of adults on Lemmy, but apparently we have a few children too.

[nous@programming.dev]

My point is the different levels of just working are subjective, not objective. I personally have spent far more time fixing bugs or just reinstalling ubuntu systems then I have over the same period for Arch systems. So many of my ubuntu installs just ended up breaking after a while where I have had the same Arch install on systems for 5+ years now. Could never get a Ubuntu system to last more then a year.

Everyone has different stories about the different OSs. It is all subjective.

[false@lemmy.world]

Wow works fine on Linux for me

[dustydata@lemmy.world]

Go atomic immutable. Is it different? Yes. But the system is always updated without any package hell. Makes managing a system for others extremely simple. Bazzite for gamers, aurora for workstations, bluefin if you like Gnome.

[reil@beehaw.org]

Poor comparison, honestly. Only like 5% of Windows users will only have a vague notion about what a registry is and a fraction of that would have messed with it under duress. By comparison, nearly all Linux users are expected to learn a handful of commands with strange abbreviations and arcane symbols to perform otherwise basic tasks. That's not some unsubstantial barrier to be dismissed.

[dustydata@lemmy.world]

That's because of active directory. It makes managing hundreds of users, across as many devices, in a centralized manner, easier. You make a user for the person with the intended access scheme, hand them a random laptop imaged from a master system OS, and off they go with access to all the software and tools tied to their user login. There's no similar alternative with a robust support service for Linux clients. If there were, then changing a culture to Linux clients wouldn't have so much friction.

[occasionallyferalya@lemmy.ml]

Hmm good point that that be pretty productive

[iopq@lemmy.world]

Nobody's writing a NixOS virus to target me. Even if I download a linux virus it will probably complain about unmet dependencies

[muhyb@programming.dev]

I know it's not an exact comparison but I think it's fair. Almost every Windows user (or the ones who fix others' computers) hit a situation where they had to modify registry (or run a .bat file they have no idea what it does -there were even official solutions like this-) to fix something, at least once in their lives. As a go-to tech-savvy person for a lot of people around me, I know I did this all the time. (I still remember that once someone asked me to remove 3D Objects folder because they couldn't and it was also a registry fix). On the other hand, while Linux is mature with its commandline, it also came to a point where a normal user don't need it, just like in Windows (it's a plus if they know at least how to paste commands if they need though). For example, my sister uses openSUSE and I taught her about YaST and she never had a single issue in the last 2 years, everything is done via GUI. She can install flatpaks if she needs too.