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Teen bombers in Ukraine: recruited, used, and eliminated by Russian special services

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  • B [email protected]

    After reading this article, I can safely say without doubt or racism that Russians are fucking demons walking the earth. This shit is horrendous and not ethical or tactically sound in any way that is conceivable by a human being. Like, what type of military advantages does this bring in any way? Can someone try to explain?

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    Without doubt or racism? Every man, woman and child in Russia? Would it be racist to hate all Afghans because of the Taliban? A portion of the population supports this, but they live in a dictatorship, a kleptocracy. If you do not feel sadness for the loss of Russian life then you're missing part of your humanity. They're conscripting innocent and ignorant people and throwing them into a blender. The whole thing is disgusting.

    You don't have to be racist to call Putin a war criminal, or indeed those Russian soldiers who commit those crimes. You can support Ukraine 100% without hating every last Russian. I invite everyone to remember that the true enemy is Putin and oligarchs everywhere

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      Why was the teen charged tho? If it wasnt knowingly it cant be terrorism by definition.

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      The teen was hired to bomb something. Instead the Russians bombed the teen.

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        Without doubt or racism? Every man, woman and child in Russia? Would it be racist to hate all Afghans because of the Taliban? A portion of the population supports this, but they live in a dictatorship, a kleptocracy. If you do not feel sadness for the loss of Russian life then you're missing part of your humanity. They're conscripting innocent and ignorant people and throwing them into a blender. The whole thing is disgusting.

        You don't have to be racist to call Putin a war criminal, or indeed those Russian soldiers who commit those crimes. You can support Ukraine 100% without hating every last Russian. I invite everyone to remember that the true enemy is Putin and oligarchs everywhere

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        I don’t see any reason to assume they were implying that all Russians are objectively evil. It feels pretty obvious that OP was talking about the Russian military combatants and officers.

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          I don’t see any reason to assume they were implying that all Russians are objectively evil. It feels pretty obvious that OP was talking about the Russian military combatants and officers.

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          My bad, you are correct; it was referring to all Russian combatants and oligarchs funding it all. I love their culture, and their people, their rich knowledge and technical prowess, but it's all fucking wasted by these dipshits in power.

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            My bad, you are correct; it was referring to all Russian combatants and oligarchs funding it all. I love their culture, and their people, their rich knowledge and technical prowess, but it's all fucking wasted by these dipshits in power.

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            Im sorry for assuming! You said "Russians" and I've seen lots of people not differentiate between the despots in power and the people who live under their fist, and it makes me sad.

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              It brings fear, it’s terrorism plain and simple. The goal is to demoralize the enemy.

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              The entire human species needs to go extinct. We are anathema; a Net-negative for the planet.

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                After reading this article, I can safely say without doubt or racism that Russians are fucking demons walking the earth. This shit is horrendous and not ethical or tactically sound in any way that is conceivable by a human being. Like, what type of military advantages does this bring in any way? Can someone try to explain?

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                History suggests there are way worse things they could do.

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                • O [email protected]

                  The entire human species needs to go extinct. We are anathema; a Net-negative for the planet.

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                  I believe that either all, or most, world-dominating-species go through this stage, after the industrial-revolutions stage..

                  Multiply the effect of our action on our underlying-planet by 10,000-fold, without having us go through species-puberty, without forcing us into maturity,

                  & the result is inevitable.

                  Whether some subset of humankind can earn growing-up enough, & surviving, isn't to be decided by our current-established-ignorance/irresponsibility..

                  Giving-up on future-generations, & just knifing them all in the back, .. may be emotionally valid, at the moment, among the privileged West, as it torches its own viability..

                  but it's still outright betrayal of future-generations..

                  & anybody who goes through my comments will see that much of the time I'm guilty of giving-up on humankind..

                  but while our normal, our default, our current establishment is net-negative, at planetary-scale, that doesn't prove that this world's humankind inherently is net-negative, that there's no subset worthy of living on after we-the-majority-go.

                  MOST of our kind need to go extinct, not necessarily the entire species, see?

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                    Without doubt or racism? Every man, woman and child in Russia? Would it be racist to hate all Afghans because of the Taliban? A portion of the population supports this, but they live in a dictatorship, a kleptocracy. If you do not feel sadness for the loss of Russian life then you're missing part of your humanity. They're conscripting innocent and ignorant people and throwing them into a blender. The whole thing is disgusting.

                    You don't have to be racist to call Putin a war criminal, or indeed those Russian soldiers who commit those crimes. You can support Ukraine 100% without hating every last Russian. I invite everyone to remember that the true enemy is Putin and oligarchs everywhere

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                    Here Here: the white-blue-white Russians, fighting alongside Ukraine, against Putin's forces, they validly are Russian, & they validly oppose Putin's alignment.

                    there were Germans who did what they could to grind-to-a-halt Nazism, including some newspaper, too, apparently..

                    same as there are US-ians opposed to what Trump's working himself up to ( the rampaging of Canada & Greenland, so as to be able to, with Putin on the other side, rampage Europe in total ).


                    I once worked with a guy who was from Iran, back in the last century..

                    He told me that he was at a political-rally, & suddenly something popped/changed in his brain, & suddenly he wasn't in the population-trance he'd lived all his life in..

                    .. he was among a crowd, all shouting slogans, & shaking their fists, & he had NO CLUE as to why this should be happening..

                    Having "come to", he methodically got out of Iran, then..

                    Culpability/guilt/responsibility gets really muddy, when you're talking about populations kept in propaganda-trance all their lives, by the local oligarchy..

                    ( this is why Journalism, with a capital-J, which holds objectivity to authority, which makes accountability a real & present thing, is a requirement for civil-rights to endure : )

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                      I don’t see any reason to assume they were implying that all Russians are objectively evil. It feels pretty obvious that OP was talking about the Russian military combatants and officers.

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                      To be fair, heading off implications of racism first and then saying "Russians" still reads poorly to me. I see now that wasn't OPs intent, and we agree

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