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Sure, but are they really ethnically irish because their great grandfather was from Ireland? At what point do we consider americans to be their own thing?
It's not like the irish, italians or the danish are ethnically pure. Some bloke on my fathers side came to Denmark from Germany in the 1800s, and before that, one of his ancestors came from france, and before that from Rome. Same shit on my mothers side.
My point is, it's not like european countries are monoethnic. So why don't we view someone from Texas, as ethnically texan, when their ancestry probably dates back to 1700s Texas?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Because we generally see ethnic groups as stretching back very far, like pre history far. At some in the future will people be talking about the American erhnic group? Maybe but it take a veey long time or a massive change in what we think of as ethnic groups for American ethnogenesis
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Because we have a holiday that is more or less Irish Pride Day (St. Patrick's Day).
If there was a Lithuanian Pride Day, there'd probably be just as many Americans searching their ancestry for a Lithuanian connection.
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Sure, but are they really ethnically irish because their great grandfather was from Ireland? At what point do we consider americans to be their own thing?
It's not like the irish, italians or the danish are ethnically pure. Some bloke on my fathers side came to Denmark from Germany in the 1800s, and before that, one of his ancestors came from france, and before that from Rome. Same shit on my mothers side.
My point is, it's not like european countries are monoethnic. So why don't we view someone from Texas, as ethnically texan, when their ancestry probably dates back to 1700s Texas?
I think you touched on why. Ethnic identity is somewhat arbitrary, and tied up with national / cultural identity. In the US, despite our xenophobic phases most of us culturally identify as a nation of immigrants. So in terms of ethnicity, we're more concerned with where our lineage existed before arriving in the United States, rather than how long it's existed in the United States. There's a bit of a hierarchy of "who's family has existed in the US the longest", but all of those claims are still anchored by which nations their ancestors came from.
There's also the fact that American genetics haven't been sedentary long enough - And probably never will be - For us to mix evenly enough to develop a unified physical appearance. Ethnicity is of course not just skin deep, but ethnic identity and identification often uses it as shorthand, and there is as far as I know no stereotypical American ethnic appearance.
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I bet they also question "why would anyone want to be a woman?"
As a woman and the op I wonder this myself.
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Nah, don't agree. They established a hierarchy of "good nationalities" to be and put others like Irish and Lithuanian below them.
I didn't establish a hierarchy of nationalities. It's like I'm saying it's bad to be Irish or Lithuanian in a moral sense I'm saying it's bad from the perspective of a Irish or Lithuanian person. Both Ireland and Lithuania are pretty shit tier countries and are very miserable places to live.
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Guatemala is awesome. The countryside is beautiful and the people are descended from one of humanity's major civilizations, the Mayans.
I realize OP is only half-serious, but they still come off as really ignorant.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]How did I come across as "ignorant" Take this from someone who has been to Guatemala. Anyone who knows anything about Guatemala would say what I said.
"The countryside is beautiful and the people are descended from one of humanity’s major civilizations, the Mayans."
You can cherry pick nice places from anywhere. Places like Mexico, Baltimore, South Africa, Brazil, Detroit and Guatemala have have some nice places here and there but let's be honest like most of South America it's a poverty filled shithole and most Guatemalans/South Americans would even agree with me on that.
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Funny story, my lineage is Irish and Lithuanian. So take that, I guess.
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Funny story, my lineage is Irish and Lithuanian. So take that, I guess.
Admitting you have problems is the first step.
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I didn't establish a hierarchy of nationalities. It's like I'm saying it's bad to be Irish or Lithuanian in a moral sense I'm saying it's bad from the perspective of a Irish or Lithuanian person. Both Ireland and Lithuania are pretty shit tier countries and are very miserable places to live.
I don't agree on any of your points. You sound incredibly ignorant.
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Eh it depends on who you are and where you're from. Chicago and Boston have a lot of Irish heritage. Everywhere else it's mostly just St. Patrick's Day, aka amateur night. So it's mostly just an excuse for the lightweights to go get drunk on shitty beer.
Seriously, who gets drunk on Miller or Budweiser? It's like trying to run a car engine on Kool-aid.
Irish by birth.
Catholic by choice.
Fishtown by the grace of god.Not me, but an actual shirt you can by in one of phillies more popular neighborhoods. Just wanna let ya know philly has plenty of irish pride, even if its mostly located in a working class now gentrified neighborhood with an American style history of racism and also a history of chart topping drug problems.
