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What do you think about reaching AGI?

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  • D [email protected]

    25 years away and always will be.

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    #14

    Just like Fusion power! What if AI and fusion invent each other at the same time?

    Maybe that's what the aliens have been trying to tell us ALL ALONG!!!

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    • T [email protected]

      It won't happen while I'm alive. Current LLMs are basically parrots with a lot of experience, and will never get close to AGI. We're no closer today than when a computer first passed the Turing test in the 60s.

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      Experienced parrots that are constantly wrong.

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      • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

        Original question by @[email protected]

        It seems like a lot of professionals are thinking we will reach AGI within my lifetime. Some credible sources say within 5 years but who knows.

        Either way I suspect it is inevitable. Who knows what may follow. Infinite wealth gap growth, mass job loss, post-work reforms, I'm not sure.

        A bunch of questions bounce around in my head, examples may be:

        • Will private property rights be honored in said future?
        • Could Amish communities still exist?
        • Is it something we can prepare for as individuals?

        I figured it is important to talk about seeing as it will likely occur in my lifetime and many of yours.

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        It may or may not happen. What I do know is that it will never spontaneously arrise from an LLM, no matter how much data they dump into it or how many tons of potable water they carelessly waste.

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        • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

          Original question by @[email protected]

          It seems like a lot of professionals are thinking we will reach AGI within my lifetime. Some credible sources say within 5 years but who knows.

          Either way I suspect it is inevitable. Who knows what may follow. Infinite wealth gap growth, mass job loss, post-work reforms, I'm not sure.

          A bunch of questions bounce around in my head, examples may be:

          • Will private property rights be honored in said future?
          • Could Amish communities still exist?
          • Is it something we can prepare for as individuals?

          I figured it is important to talk about seeing as it will likely occur in my lifetime and many of yours.

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          We were on track for it, but LLMs derailed that.

          Now we'll have to wait for the bubble to burst, which will poison the concept of AI (since LLMs are being sold as AI despite being practically the opposite) in the minds of both users and investors for decades.

          It'd probably take a couple generations for any funding for AI research to be available after that (not to mention cleaning up all the LLM slop spillage from our knowledge repositories)... but by that time we'll almost certainly be extinct due to global warming.

          The LLM peddlers murdered the future for short term profits, and doomed us all in the process.

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          • G [email protected]

            In a single person's lifetime, we went from not flying to landing on the moon. We absolutely can produce AGI in most of our lifetimes. I predict within 15-20 years, we will have a functioning AGI. It may also need to coincide with actually figuring out quantum computing just for sheer computational needs.

            This all hinges on if investments in AI continue at its current pace, which we already see cracks in though.

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            You're not taking into account the fact that LLMs are an obvious dead end.

            Once that bubble bursts it'll take decades before anyone invests in AI research again and for anything attached to the term “AI” to not be seen as a scam (LLMs are obviously not AI or anything close, but they're being sold as such and that's what the term will be associated with), not to mention we'll need decades to clean up all the LLM slop spillage before proper research of any kind can proceed.

            What you said was valid before the well got poisoned.

            Now it's extremely unlikely we'll survive long enough to get back on track.

            LLM peddlers murdered the future, in the name of short term profits.

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            • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

              Original question by @[email protected]

              It seems like a lot of professionals are thinking we will reach AGI within my lifetime. Some credible sources say within 5 years but who knows.

              Either way I suspect it is inevitable. Who knows what may follow. Infinite wealth gap growth, mass job loss, post-work reforms, I'm not sure.

              A bunch of questions bounce around in my head, examples may be:

              • Will private property rights be honored in said future?
              • Could Amish communities still exist?
              • Is it something we can prepare for as individuals?

              I figured it is important to talk about seeing as it will likely occur in my lifetime and many of yours.

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              Not without a major breakthrough in knowledge representation.

              LLMs aren't it.

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              • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                Original question by @[email protected]

                It seems like a lot of professionals are thinking we will reach AGI within my lifetime. Some credible sources say within 5 years but who knows.

                Either way I suspect it is inevitable. Who knows what may follow. Infinite wealth gap growth, mass job loss, post-work reforms, I'm not sure.

                A bunch of questions bounce around in my head, examples may be:

                • Will private property rights be honored in said future?
                • Could Amish communities still exist?
                • Is it something we can prepare for as individuals?

                I figured it is important to talk about seeing as it will likely occur in my lifetime and many of yours.

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                As others have said, it AGI won't be from LLMs. AGI is their current buzzword to hype stocks.
                If they declare theyve 'reached' AGI when you read the frine print it will be an arbitrary measure

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                • A [email protected]

                  I don't think we will be able to achieve AGI with anything other than an absolute accident. We don't understand our own brains enough to create one from scratch.

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                  What makes you think a human brain has anything to do with general intelligence? Have you ever talked to people with a human brain?

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                    What makes you think a human brain has anything to do with general intelligence? Have you ever talked to people with a human brain?

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                    I have talked to many people. All have demonstrated having a human brain with varying degrees of intelligence.

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                    • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                      Original question by @[email protected]

                      It seems like a lot of professionals are thinking we will reach AGI within my lifetime. Some credible sources say within 5 years but who knows.

                      Either way I suspect it is inevitable. Who knows what may follow. Infinite wealth gap growth, mass job loss, post-work reforms, I'm not sure.

                      A bunch of questions bounce around in my head, examples may be:

                      • Will private property rights be honored in said future?
                      • Could Amish communities still exist?
                      • Is it something we can prepare for as individuals?

                      I figured it is important to talk about seeing as it will likely occur in my lifetime and many of yours.

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                      #23

                      Anyone telling you it's five years away? Check their investments.

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