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  • jdpoz@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

    Classic neo-liberalism - privatize the benefits, socialize the costs.

    Corporations : "We should get to gobble all power with our projects... and you should have the personal responsibility to reduce power usage even though it would - at best - only improve things at the very edges of the margins... and then we can get away with whatever we want."

    Just like with paper straws. You get crappy straws and they hope you feel like you're helping the environment (even though the plastic straws account for like 0.00002% of plastic waste generated) ... meanwhile 80% of the actual pollution and waste being generated by like 12 corporations gets to continue.

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    I feel like i've read a very similar argument somewhere recently, but i have difficulty remembering it precisely. It went something like this:

    • If a company kills 5 people, it was either an accident, an unfortunate mishap, a necessity of war (in case of the weapons industry) or some other bullshit excuse.
    • If the people threaten to kill 5 billionaires, they're charged with "terrorism" (see Luigi Mangione's case).
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      What are you talking about? I can run pocket pall localy on my phone, and I have this:

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        For the same reason we want to subsidize solar production in residential construction even though it's more efficient and cost-productive to do it at-scale. Having energy production and storage at the point of use reduces strain on power infrastructure and helps alleviate the types of load surging ayyy is talking about.

        It's not a replacement for modernizing our power grids, too - it simply helps to make them more resilient.

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        That's understandable but do we need it now? Neither pv nor batteries last forever. I'm just not sure if we need them now (or short-medium term future). But I'm not in the position to decide upon it

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          We're going away folks, and nothing of any true value will be lost, except all the species that did live in homeostasis with the Earth that we're taking with us in our species' avarice induced murder-suicide

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            What are you talking about? I can run pocket pall localy on my phone, and I have this:

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            Nwm, Lemmy being Lamey by not allowing the image to load.

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              nice name btw

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              • medicpigbabysaver@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                How about, fuck AI, end story.

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                I did, as a matter of fact, fuck AI.

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                  I tried to make an image of a woman with 5 tits but got distracted and got married to a rock

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                    5 tits, that's awesome.

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                    • internetcitizen2@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                      I am agreeing with you that the solutions exist, but the will to implement them is going to be the hard part. A big dampener is simply going to be the profit motive. There is more money in siding with the data center than a the households. Are households okay with an increasing in price? Data center is likely to manage that better, or even just pay a bribe to someone. I used food as another example of a problem that is solved. We can grow food without fail and build the rail to get it to where it needs. We just don't because need does not match profit expectation. There are talks of building nuclear power for some data centers, but such talk would not happen for normal households.

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                      People definitely underestimate how cooperative big tech is relative to every other business mostly because big tech has a lot of money and very few expenses so friction is relatively a bigger bottle neck than almost any other industry. So I still think that pressuring openAi into green energy is easier than pressuring Volvo (or any manufacturer) which already is really brittle and has huge negotiation leverage in the form of jobs it provides.

                      Take a look at any other business niche and no one's comitting to green energy other than big tech. As you said yourself no other niche want to build their own nuclear reactors to satisfy their own green energy need.

                      I think its OK to hate on big tech because they're billionaires but people really lose sight here and complain about wrong things that distract from real much bigger issues and paints the entire movement as idiots.

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                        That's understandable but do we need it now? Neither pv nor batteries last forever. I'm just not sure if we need them now (or short-medium term future). But I'm not in the position to decide upon it

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                        I don't know how to answer that question.

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                          The truck owners I know, myself included, use them all the time for towing and like the added utility having the bed as as secondary feature.

                          Then you put it beside a truck from 30 years ago that's a quarter the overall size but has the same bed capacity and towing power along with much better visibility instead of not being able to see the child you're about to run over. And then you understand what people mean when they say massive trucks - giant ridiculously unnecessary things that are all about being a status symbol and dodging regulations rather than practicality.

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                          Absolutely 100% incorrect on towing. The 95 top f150 towed about 7700 compared to 13500 today. That's an f350 in 95. It'll also fit a family of 4 comparable to a full size sedan eliminating any need of a secondary vehicle. The old f150/1500s were miserable in the back.

                          As for the safety I find the argument disingenuous not based on reality. Roughly 160 kids were killed in 23 with the EU27. It was 220 in the US. Much of that could be correlated to traffic density as well.

                          Country / Region Est. Fatalities/Year Child Pop. (0–14) Fatalities per Million

                          United States ~225 ~61 million ~3.7
                          United Kingdom ~22 ~11.5 million ~1.9
                          Canada ~12 ~6 million ~2.0
                          Australia ~11 ~4.8 million ~2.3
                          Germany ~20 ~11 million ~1.8
                          France ~18 ~11 million ~1.6
                          Japan ~18 ~15 million ~1.2
                          India ~3,000 (est.) ~360 million ~8.3
                          Brazil ~450 ~50 million ~9.0
                          European Union (EU-27) ~140–160 ~72 million ~2.0–2.2

                          I think we should offer incentives for manufacturers to start reducing size and weight, but things you are saying here aren't really based off of any data nor was it what I was asking.

                          I just wish I could find one person to show me what they are referencing when they repeat that seemingly false fact.

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                            I should have figured the Rick and Morty episode was a reference to something.

                            Makes me think about South Park and watching it as it aired when I was a kid. There were so many things I missed because I hadn’t seen any of the source material for a lot of the jokes.

                            Watching it all again 25 years later and damn, even better the second time around when you’ve seen all the shit they’re parodying.

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                            I didn't know Rick and Morty referenced this but I shouldn't be surprised.
                            Same here with the missed references. It makes rewatching older content not just nostalgic but also a fun discovery.

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                              I tried to make an image of a woman with 5 tits but got distracted and got married to a rock

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                              That looks like fun. How do I play that AI?

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                                Will 1 image of a girl with 5 tits take more energy to make or 5 images of a girl with only 1 tit

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                                  I wish the afterlife were real, so I could experience a world where God, not man, was in charge.

                                  Sadly that chump aint real either.

                                  I am not liberated by the Death of God, it is something I live in terror of.

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                                  • medicpigbabysaver@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                    Climate change is unstoppable. Humanity is mostly doomed very, very soon.

                                    So, fuck y'all, my two window units are running 24/7 @ 69F for the foreseeable future.

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                                    At what point is self-defence justifiable?

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                                      It's closer to running 8 high-end video games at once. Sure, from a scale perspective it's further removed from training, but it's still fairly expensive.

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                                      How exactly did you come across this "fact"?

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                                        Nwm, Lemmy being Lamey by not allowing the image to load.

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                                        Hahahahaha!! I have never heard Lemmy being referred to as lamey, and I am diggin it! Hahaha

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                                          We're going away folks, and nothing of any true value will be lost, except all the species that did live in homeostasis with the Earth that we're taking with us in our species' avarice induced murder-suicide

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                                          I've been trying to write this comment the more concise possible, I'm trying my best. "We're going away", yes, that's true. No matter what we are leaving this place, but, that doesn't mean that the last days of humanity have to be surrounded by pollution and trash. All I can get of that quote in the image is that we should let big companies shit on us till we die.

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