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Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other Manifest V2-based extensions in Edge

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  • P [email protected]

    Fancy firefox-based browser along the lines of Arc?

    https://zen-browser.app/

    Worth a look if you're a web power-user / developer sort of person

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    Firefox based. Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I'mma give this a try.

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      People actually use that thing?

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      It's the number one browser to download other browsers, so yeah, sure!

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      • I [email protected]

        Zen's glance feature allows you to view links without actually opening them.

        I do not like the wording of this because you are opening it

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        Nonsense, you're not opening them! You're fetching them for viewing. It's totally different!

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        • negativenull@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

          Ladybird Browser is coming, but could be a couple years still

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          Backed by Shopify, huh? Bet they wish that wasn't the case, given recent events.

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          • a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

            I dont know why people keep recommending brave.

            its a fucking scummy fucking browser that has a history of stealing money, hijacking referal codes (like honey just got in deep trouble over), installing unnecessary software without consent and more.

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            #128

            Because it's a good product.

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            • G [email protected]

              The reason why Chromium uses LGPL is because they forked the code from Safari, which had previously forked the code from KHTML (KDE's web rendering component, used in Konqueror). The LGPL was provably insufficient to prevent corporate usurpation of the project, as a historical fact.

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              The LGPL does its job, it's not as copyleft as GPL or AGPL, but having those licenses doesn't guarantee that companies will use it, like Gab, which used a fork of Mastodont, Truth Social, or Pawoo. If you want a more restrictive license, the OSI basically won't accept it as open source because it doesn't meet their guidelines.

              Also, there are no other browsers due to the standards set by W3C and therefore browsers have to have corporate support.

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                Well shit... Thanks for the heads up!

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                #130

                No problem!

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                • krik@lemmy.dbzer0.comK [email protected]

                  Amarok is the other wolf. I know it looks deceptively similar.

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                  #131

                  itsthesamepicture.bmp

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                  • a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                    I dont know why people keep recommending brave.

                    its a fucking scummy fucking browser that has a history of stealing money, hijacking referal codes (like honey just got in deep trouble over), installing unnecessary software without consent and more.

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                    My friends who are less tech literate swear by brave. I think it's the way they market their browser... Some of Brave's core audience don't want to install a third party extension for adblock (either they don't like third party or they just don't know they can do it in other browsers)

                    Also on opening a new tab, they show the stats of how much data they saved and how much ads it blocked. Some people like seeing the number grow.

                    All this is my speculation. There may be some other reason for it being this popular.

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                    • F [email protected]

                      The latest Edge Canary version started disabling Manifest V2-based extensions with the following message: "This extension is no longer supported. Microsoft Edge recommends that you remove it." Although the browser turns off old extensions without asking, you can still make them work by clicking "Manage extension" and toggling it back (you will have to acknowledge another prompt).

                      At this point, it is not entirely clear what is going on. Google started phasing out Manifest V2 extensions in June 2024, and it has a clear roadmap for the process. Microsoft's documentation, however, still says "TBD," so the exact dates are not known yet. This leads to some speculating about the situation being one of "unexpected changes" coming from Chromium. Either way, sooner or later, Microsoft will ditch MV2-based extensions, so get ready as we wait for Microsoft to shine some light on its plans.

                      Another thing worth noting is that the change does not appear to be affecting Edge's stable release or Beta/Dev Channels. For now, only Canary versions disable uBlock Origin and other MV2 extensions, leaving users a way to toggle them back on. Also, the uBlock Origin is still available in the Edge Add-ons store

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                      Perfect time to check out AdGuard Home. Trivial to install locally. Probably took less than 3 minutes to install and get it operating. Hardest part was updating my router config. (Goddamn Google WiFi!)

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                      • P [email protected]

                        Fancy firefox-based browser along the lines of Arc?

                        https://zen-browser.app/

                        Worth a look if you're a web power-user / developer sort of person

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                        #134

                        Honestly this has been my daily driver for the past 6 months or so.

                        I really like it. The aesthetics are really modern, while still maintaining all the things I like about firefox.

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                        • I [email protected]

                          I use Firefox for most things, but Google Meet maxes out all my CPUs if I use Firefox. Any kind of screen sharing kills it. Suggestions on how I can get video encoding working greatly appreciated... Intel Xe graphics.

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                          If I needed ANY version of chrome around I would keep Vivaldi.

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                          • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

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                            Lil arms!

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                            • gunpachi@lemmings.worldG [email protected]

                              My friends who are less tech literate swear by brave. I think it's the way they market their browser... Some of Brave's core audience don't want to install a third party extension for adblock (either they don't like third party or they just don't know they can do it in other browsers)

                              Also on opening a new tab, they show the stats of how much data they saved and how much ads it blocked. Some people like seeing the number grow.

                              All this is my speculation. There may be some other reason for it being this popular.

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                              If it's being heavily marketed, that's a red flag.

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                              • I [email protected]

                                Zen's glance feature allows you to view links without actually opening them.

                                I do not like the wording of this because you are opening it

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                                Yeah, viewing a link without opening it is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

                                You just viewed a link without opening it.

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                                • F [email protected]

                                  The latest Edge Canary version started disabling Manifest V2-based extensions with the following message: "This extension is no longer supported. Microsoft Edge recommends that you remove it." Although the browser turns off old extensions without asking, you can still make them work by clicking "Manage extension" and toggling it back (you will have to acknowledge another prompt).

                                  At this point, it is not entirely clear what is going on. Google started phasing out Manifest V2 extensions in June 2024, and it has a clear roadmap for the process. Microsoft's documentation, however, still says "TBD," so the exact dates are not known yet. This leads to some speculating about the situation being one of "unexpected changes" coming from Chromium. Either way, sooner or later, Microsoft will ditch MV2-based extensions, so get ready as we wait for Microsoft to shine some light on its plans.

                                  Another thing worth noting is that the change does not appear to be affecting Edge's stable release or Beta/Dev Channels. For now, only Canary versions disable uBlock Origin and other MV2 extensions, leaving users a way to toggle them back on. Also, the uBlock Origin is still available in the Edge Add-ons store

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                                  people use edge? it downloads itself onto your computer without permission.

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                                    Firefox time

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                                    firefox is starting to enshittify, LIBREWOLF, or another might be better.

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                                    • G [email protected]

                                      Except in this case, the full cure also exists already and you're trying to push the temporary treatment instead, for no good reason.

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                                      There is no full cure. Nothing will offer a Chrome based browser support Manifest v2 after July. Your "cure" is "give up now". Which, hey, if you want to, go for it. But for those that don't for their own reasons, why are you so upset about them having the info about other browsers? I'm offering people information on a option that will preserve the functionality of manifest v2 Chrome based browsers or if they're already using them that are still working meanwhile the article we're talking about is referencing that functionality being removed early.

                                      I find it bizarre that these downvoters are so obsessed with people not having this information. How is this information in peoples hands hurting YOU so much? If you don't want to use Vivaldi? Don't! I'm not your dad. Move on and the people that want this info have it.

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                                      • T [email protected]

                                        Brave will support it until it becomes inconvenient to do so as the Chromium base keeps moving everywhere onwards.

                                        Regardless, Brave have their own skeletons in the closet... crypto, installing other Brave applications during browser install without consent, injecting their affiliate links when nobody asked, a CEO who donated money to homophobic causes more than once.

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                                        None of these small browsers can make significant changes to the original project. A browser nowadays is a super complex bloated thing that requires too much resources to maintain. If even M$ abandoned their engine to go with Chromium (because it was probably costing them a lot of resources to keep compatibility with the evolving standards, security fixes etc.) what hope is there for small companies? Arguably Apple’s Safari has significant differences compared to Chrome, but we’re talking about Apple…

                                        People thinking this is a solution are gonna get disappointed eventually. For now, Firefox is the only alternative product that has been maintained for decades.

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                                          people use edge? it downloads itself onto your computer without permission.

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                                          At work. Corporate web based software doesn't always play nice in firefox.

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