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Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other Manifest V2-based extensions in Edge

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  • L [email protected]

    people use edge? it downloads itself onto your computer without permission.

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    wrote on last edited by
    #175

    It didn't for me on Linux :^)

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      Librewolf on desktop
      Mull on Android

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      #176

      I don't suggest Librewolf for the plebians though.

      It comes with very aggressive anti-fingerprinting and privacy features.

      For people in [email protected] that's less of a problem but I wouldn't suggest it to my family members.

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      • T [email protected]

        Tell IT and your boss how your productivity tanked since edge disabled uBlock.

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        #177

        Click on all the ads and install all the malware. That will teach them.

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        • dan@upvote.auD [email protected]

          What's the advantage over regular Firefox?

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          #178

          You can think of it as a mobile version of LibreWolf. Strict security settings are default and Mozilla's telemetry is disabled/removed. Also unlike regular Firefox, you can download it from F-Droid (currently you need their repo but it'll be added officially soon, probably).

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          • D [email protected]

            If you think SSO and easy profile migration doesn't save time, there's simply no point in discussing it with you. I don't like MS and their near monopoly position as a company much either. But that doesn't mean every product they make is utter trash for every situation.

            There are undoubtedly other solutions but to pretend every one is too dumb to use them shows how little actual experience working in a variety of companies is.

            Back in the nineties you might have had Novell NetWare or just plain old LDAP instead of AD, but unlike those competitors AD kept working and offered upgrade trajectories. And it offered decent integration with a decent mailserver (that ofcourse sucked to set up securely for outside access), and that mailserver was fantastic versus the utterly terror that was Domino combined with Notes.
            I don't like MS for basically forcing you to go to their cloud now, but pretending it's a bad product through and through on a functional level is just being willingly blind.

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            #179

            That's the defeatist attitude of a true MCSE scholar.

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            • P [email protected]

              🤭to myself then?

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              wrote on last edited by
              #180

              Intune can manage Firefox add-ons btw, no need to use any extra systems.

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              • dan@upvote.auD [email protected]

                What's the advantage over regular Firefox?

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                #181

                Firefox is in the process of enshittifying.

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                • E [email protected]

                  I dont know why people keep recommending brave.

                  Because it's good.

                  its a fucking scummy fucking browser that has a history of stealing money, hijacking referal codes (like honey just got in deep trouble over), installing unnecessary software without consent and more.

                  Bullshit.

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                  #182

                  Bullshit.

                  If you want to use the browser despite those controversies then that's your choice, but be honest enough to admit they exist.

                  I don't use brave and haven't for a long time, but these things are well documented.

                  https://www.searchenginejournal.com/brave-browser-under-fire-for-alleged-sale-of-copyrighted-data/491854/

                  https://www.zdnet.com/article/brave-browser-the-bad-and-the-ugly/

                  https://www.tomsguide.com/news/brave-affiliate-links-autocomplete

                  https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/browsing/brave-browser-is-installing-a-vpn-without-your-permission

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                  • M [email protected]

                    You can think of it as a mobile version of LibreWolf. Strict security settings are default and Mozilla's telemetry is disabled/removed. Also unlike regular Firefox, you can download it from F-Droid (currently you need their repo but it'll be added officially soon, probably).

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                    #183

                    Are they doing their own development or are they still mostly reliant on Mozilla? The thing with all these forks is that I doubt they'd be able to continue development if Mozilla were to disappear, since they still rely heavily on Mozilla.

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                      True. Most of the negative comments about Chromium here are really obtuse. Looks like people feel the need to gain imaginary internet points by praising a mediocre browser made by a misguided Corp. such as Mozilla.

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                      #184

                      people think of browsers and operating systems here like it's a religion or something, it makes them crazy. google is a problem, but it's not like mozilla isn't going to pull the same crap when it gets big enough.

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                      • dan@upvote.auD [email protected]

                        Are they doing their own development or are they still mostly reliant on Mozilla? The thing with all these forks is that I doubt they'd be able to continue development if Mozilla were to disappear, since they still rely heavily on Mozilla.

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                        #185

                        They are reliant. These forks are basically tweaked Firefox.

                        Yeah, FIrefox is a huge code base. If Mozilla disappears, some big developer group must take over the flag. Otherwise with only community effort, the development would be slowed down.

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                        • D [email protected]

                          If you think SSO and easy profile migration doesn't save time, there's simply no point in discussing it with you. I don't like MS and their near monopoly position as a company much either. But that doesn't mean every product they make is utter trash for every situation.

                          There are undoubtedly other solutions but to pretend every one is too dumb to use them shows how little actual experience working in a variety of companies is.

                          Back in the nineties you might have had Novell NetWare or just plain old LDAP instead of AD, but unlike those competitors AD kept working and offered upgrade trajectories. And it offered decent integration with a decent mailserver (that ofcourse sucked to set up securely for outside access), and that mailserver was fantastic versus the utterly terror that was Domino combined with Notes.
                          I don't like MS for basically forcing you to go to their cloud now, but pretending it's a bad product through and through on a functional level is just being willingly blind.

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                          All the people who bluster and huff about Microsoft's stranglehold on enterprise, education, government, etc all absolutely fail to grasp how utterly manageable Windows specifically (and MS products in general) is/are. If you're familiar with Group Policy, you know; if you're not, your really, really dont. A moderately competent Windows admin with a single Windows Server can make ten thousand Windows workstations work seamlessley in fifty countries, twenty data protection doctrines and ten languages with hundreds of customisations, tweaks, automations and deployments tailored to each combination of device/user/location, if that's what they need. I wish that was the case with any FOSS OS, but it absolutely isn't and even MacOS and ChromeOS don't come even vaugley close.

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                          • O [email protected]

                            Bullshit.

                            If you want to use the browser despite those controversies then that's your choice, but be honest enough to admit they exist.

                            I don't use brave and haven't for a long time, but these things are well documented.

                            https://www.searchenginejournal.com/brave-browser-under-fire-for-alleged-sale-of-copyrighted-data/491854/

                            https://www.zdnet.com/article/brave-browser-the-bad-and-the-ugly/

                            https://www.tomsguide.com/news/brave-affiliate-links-autocomplete

                            https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/browsing/brave-browser-is-installing-a-vpn-without-your-permission

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                            These are negligible or even non-issues and it's not like Mozilla didn't have its fair share of controversies as well. In no way they are "better", whatever this means.

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                            • E [email protected]

                              These are negligible or even non-issues and it's not like Mozilla didn't have its fair share of controversies as well. In no way they are "better", whatever this means.

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                              #188

                              Yeah, I peeked at your moderation history after posting, it's OK, I see now this is the best I could have exspected in answer. Good day to you!

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                              • E [email protected]

                                True. Most of the negative comments about Chromium here are really obtuse. Looks like people feel the need to gain imaginary internet points by praising a mediocre browser made by a misguided Corp. such as Mozilla.

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #189

                                Let's hope that Ladybird be better than Mozilla Firefox.

                                I would be curious if Ladybird is successful, maybe Microsoft, Apple or Brave will use it after leaving Chrome and WebKit.

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                                • duskyro@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                  FLOORP

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                                  I've looked it up and apparently there's a problem where if you open a new window with any amount of tabs and close it last, you will lose all your tabs on the first window. It's a big no for me, because I already had to restore last opened windows in Firefox many times, and I am pretty sure you previously could just press CTRL+SHIFT+T and it did reopen them, although I might misremember things.

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    That's the defeatist attitude of a true MCSE scholar.

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                                    And your arguments have the strength of the hobbyist with the homelab he's constantly having to reinstall, not understanding why companies are so stupid to not do the same thing as him.

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                                    • W [email protected]

                                      Basically browsers are big because they are operating systems for web hosted applications with huge attack surfaces and lots of legacy compatibility requirements amassed over 3 decades.

                                      A rewrite isn't the answer. Putting limits on browser functionality is. JavaScript was the turning point IMHO.

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                                      I think it could be sensible to come out with a subset of modern web tech stack, and just use that. There could be even a lightweight web browser just for this subset. The problem is of course on agreeing with what would be included.

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        Fancy firefox-based browser along the lines of Arc?

                                        https://zen-browser.app/

                                        Worth a look if you're a web power-user / developer sort of person

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                                        Why is there a sidebar for tabs? That seems wasteful for all the screen space it takes.

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                                        • D [email protected]

                                          What's Edge?

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                                          #194

                                          You don't Edge?

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