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Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other Manifest V2-based extensions in Edge

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  • P [email protected]

    Fancy firefox-based browser along the lines of Arc?

    https://zen-browser.app/

    Worth a look if you're a web power-user / developer sort of person

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    I use love the mod feature

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      Because its not a permanent forever fix for Edge users its downvote worthy?

      Yes.

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      Yes.

      I really appreciate the honesty, thank you. I not don't have to care that those downvotes are rational.

      Following this same logic I imagine you downvote any treatments that extend the life of cancer patients because the new treatments aren't full cures.

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      • tommasz@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

        I had a feeling this would happen. I have to use Google services for a lot of things at work and Edge works fine with them. Firefox usually does okay, but not always. And now Firefox is requiring you to hand over your data to them.

        Can any Chromium-based browser refuse to turn on V3 or is it too baked-in without forking the entire project?

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        IIRC Vivaldi and Brave promised to prolong it for a year.

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          On the rare occasion I want to stream movies while on my PC at 1080p, because most online movie services will only stream 1080p to Edge. Some times Chrome will be allowed to stream 1080p but it's pretty hit or miss in my experience. On another note, basically no streaming services will stream movies to you in 4k on a PC, I've also found most streaming apps on my phone won't give me 4k either, you can only really get 4k streaming to a smart TV... it's pretty ridiculous.

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          Why let the streaming services tell you what you can or can't watch videos on when you can just pirate everything?

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            The latest Edge Canary version started disabling Manifest V2-based extensions with the following message: "This extension is no longer supported. Microsoft Edge recommends that you remove it." Although the browser turns off old extensions without asking, you can still make them work by clicking "Manage extension" and toggling it back (you will have to acknowledge another prompt).

            At this point, it is not entirely clear what is going on. Google started phasing out Manifest V2 extensions in June 2024, and it has a clear roadmap for the process. Microsoft's documentation, however, still says "TBD," so the exact dates are not known yet. This leads to some speculating about the situation being one of "unexpected changes" coming from Chromium. Either way, sooner or later, Microsoft will ditch MV2-based extensions, so get ready as we wait for Microsoft to shine some light on its plans.

            Another thing worth noting is that the change does not appear to be affecting Edge's stable release or Beta/Dev Channels. For now, only Canary versions disable uBlock Origin and other MV2 extensions, leaving users a way to toggle them back on. Also, the uBlock Origin is still available in the Edge Add-ons store

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            I'd direct people to Firefox, but Mozilla is doing some weird shit right now and I just can't. And the forks are always with some weird limitations or issues. Why does it all have to be shit these days?

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              The latest Edge Canary version started disabling Manifest V2-based extensions with the following message: "This extension is no longer supported. Microsoft Edge recommends that you remove it." Although the browser turns off old extensions without asking, you can still make them work by clicking "Manage extension" and toggling it back (you will have to acknowledge another prompt).

              At this point, it is not entirely clear what is going on. Google started phasing out Manifest V2 extensions in June 2024, and it has a clear roadmap for the process. Microsoft's documentation, however, still says "TBD," so the exact dates are not known yet. This leads to some speculating about the situation being one of "unexpected changes" coming from Chromium. Either way, sooner or later, Microsoft will ditch MV2-based extensions, so get ready as we wait for Microsoft to shine some light on its plans.

              Another thing worth noting is that the change does not appear to be affecting Edge's stable release or Beta/Dev Channels. For now, only Canary versions disable uBlock Origin and other MV2 extensions, leaving users a way to toggle them back on. Also, the uBlock Origin is still available in the Edge Add-ons store

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              I was on Netscape in the 90s, I got on Firefox when it was still Firebird, and I haven't left once. You've been a good friend.

              (Though I do like Palemoon a lot since I love the pre Quantum and pre WebExtensions days).

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              • tommasz@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                I had a feeling this would happen. I have to use Google services for a lot of things at work and Edge works fine with them. Firefox usually does okay, but not always. And now Firefox is requiring you to hand over your data to them.

                Can any Chromium-based browser refuse to turn on V3 or is it too baked-in without forking the entire project?

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                And now Firefox is requiring you to hand over your data to them.

                If you're talking about the most recent news about the Terms of Service, that is a gross misreading of what they said.

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                • P [email protected]

                  Ok maybe off topic, why does a web browser have to be one of the most complicated software artifacts on earth? So expensive to write and maintain that only a few orgs with huge developer resources can do it?

                  What would it look like to start from scratch with a massively simplified standard for specifying UIs, based on what we've learned works on standard browsers? A standard that a few developers could implement in a few weeks using off the shelf libraries. Rather than reimplement every bizarre historical detail in html/CSS, have a new UI layout system that's simple and consistent, and perhaps more powerful.

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                  If you don't want to be compatible with what millions of websites are written in (because that's the complicated part), you now have to convince all of them to invest lots of money to migrate to your new web standard... Good luck...

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                  • andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]

                    IIRC Vivaldi and Brave promised to prolong it for a year.

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                    Test-driving them both now.

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                    • tommasz@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                      I had a feeling this would happen. I have to use Google services for a lot of things at work and Edge works fine with them. Firefox usually does okay, but not always. And now Firefox is requiring you to hand over your data to them.

                      Can any Chromium-based browser refuse to turn on V3 or is it too baked-in without forking the entire project?

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                      That's not what that Firefox thing was about at all.

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                      • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

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                        Sam Reichfox

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                        • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

                          We need a truly FOSS browser that developed and maintained by the community. Librewolf isn't it unless it fully forks away from Mozilla. We need a new engine and we just don't have one yet.

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                          Sounds like a job for JoMiran! Rooting for you!

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                          • punchshark@lemmy.caP [email protected]

                            Who fucking uses edge?

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                            My company has blocked all other web browsers, so lots of us sadly.

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                              The latest Edge Canary version started disabling Manifest V2-based extensions with the following message: "This extension is no longer supported. Microsoft Edge recommends that you remove it." Although the browser turns off old extensions without asking, you can still make them work by clicking "Manage extension" and toggling it back (you will have to acknowledge another prompt).

                              At this point, it is not entirely clear what is going on. Google started phasing out Manifest V2 extensions in June 2024, and it has a clear roadmap for the process. Microsoft's documentation, however, still says "TBD," so the exact dates are not known yet. This leads to some speculating about the situation being one of "unexpected changes" coming from Chromium. Either way, sooner or later, Microsoft will ditch MV2-based extensions, so get ready as we wait for Microsoft to shine some light on its plans.

                              Another thing worth noting is that the change does not appear to be affecting Edge's stable release or Beta/Dev Channels. For now, only Canary versions disable uBlock Origin and other MV2 extensions, leaving users a way to toggle them back on. Also, the uBlock Origin is still available in the Edge Add-ons store

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                              Why would anyone use anything but Brave anyway? Brave will still support manifest v2 shit.

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                              • samus12345@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                                How painless is it to carry over everything from Firefox?

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                                Was super easy but my setup is pretty minimal.

                                Export bookmarks from Firefox, install favourite addons in the Floorp extension menu and lastly import bookmarks.

                                Most of the settings will be familiar and some features will be new like the workspaces and sidebar.

                                Hope your transfer goes smoothly!

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                                  The latest Edge Canary version started disabling Manifest V2-based extensions with the following message: "This extension is no longer supported. Microsoft Edge recommends that you remove it." Although the browser turns off old extensions without asking, you can still make them work by clicking "Manage extension" and toggling it back (you will have to acknowledge another prompt).

                                  At this point, it is not entirely clear what is going on. Google started phasing out Manifest V2 extensions in June 2024, and it has a clear roadmap for the process. Microsoft's documentation, however, still says "TBD," so the exact dates are not known yet. This leads to some speculating about the situation being one of "unexpected changes" coming from Chromium. Either way, sooner or later, Microsoft will ditch MV2-based extensions, so get ready as we wait for Microsoft to shine some light on its plans.

                                  Another thing worth noting is that the change does not appear to be affecting Edge's stable release or Beta/Dev Channels. For now, only Canary versions disable uBlock Origin and other MV2 extensions, leaving users a way to toggle them back on. Also, the uBlock Origin is still available in the Edge Add-ons store

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                                  Lol Microsoft really using their browser market share effectively

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                                  • F [email protected]

                                    The latest Edge Canary version started disabling Manifest V2-based extensions with the following message: "This extension is no longer supported. Microsoft Edge recommends that you remove it." Although the browser turns off old extensions without asking, you can still make them work by clicking "Manage extension" and toggling it back (you will have to acknowledge another prompt).

                                    At this point, it is not entirely clear what is going on. Google started phasing out Manifest V2 extensions in June 2024, and it has a clear roadmap for the process. Microsoft's documentation, however, still says "TBD," so the exact dates are not known yet. This leads to some speculating about the situation being one of "unexpected changes" coming from Chromium. Either way, sooner or later, Microsoft will ditch MV2-based extensions, so get ready as we wait for Microsoft to shine some light on its plans.

                                    Another thing worth noting is that the change does not appear to be affecting Edge's stable release or Beta/Dev Channels. For now, only Canary versions disable uBlock Origin and other MV2 extensions, leaving users a way to toggle them back on. Also, the uBlock Origin is still available in the Edge Add-ons store

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                                    Just in case you needed another reason not to use Edge.

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                                      Why would anyone use anything but Brave anyway? Brave will still support manifest v2 shit.

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                                      it's very brave to say something like that here

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                                        Why would anyone use anything but Brave anyway? Brave will still support manifest v2 shit.

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                                        Brave will support it until it becomes inconvenient to do so as the Chromium base keeps moving everywhere onwards.

                                        Regardless, Brave have their own skeletons in the closet... crypto, installing other Brave applications during browser install without consent, injecting their affiliate links when nobody asked, a CEO who donated money to homophobic causes more than once.

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                                        • W [email protected]

                                          Well, Firefox tries really hard to go to shit as well with their new Privacy Policy and their first ever Terms of Service.

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                                          For anybody unaware, their new privacy notice essentially states that if you opt in to using a third party LLM within Firefox, the LLM provider will get the info that you give to the LLM.

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