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Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other Manifest V2-based extensions in Edge

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  • rmuk@feddit.ukR [email protected]

    All the people who bluster and huff about Microsoft's stranglehold on enterprise, education, government, etc all absolutely fail to grasp how utterly manageable Windows specifically (and MS products in general) is/are. If you're familiar with Group Policy, you know; if you're not, your really, really dont. A moderately competent Windows admin with a single Windows Server can make ten thousand Windows workstations work seamlessley in fifty countries, twenty data protection doctrines and ten languages with hundreds of customisations, tweaks, automations and deployments tailored to each combination of device/user/location, if that's what they need. I wish that was the case with any FOSS OS, but it absolutely isn't and even MacOS and ChromeOS don't come even vaugley close.

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    This is understandable, and also can see why FOSS would struggle, since a big part of the value is keeping the operators of the machines from doing the things they want or need to do. This is anathema to general FOSS thinking, to keep the user from doing things they would generally be empowered to do.

    Which I can see as being great for the admins, but it is often maddening to be a user under that regime. For example, "officially" I must use the corporate load for my work, and it's super locked down. Problem being is the lock down makes my job effectively impossible (unable to run arbitrarily new binaries, unable to connect to services without a proper certificate, unable to add my own certificates, must get all binaries and service certificates from IT who takes 2-3 weeks to turnaround a signature). So you have a few departments resorting to that naughtiest of naughty words "Shadow IT", always looking for end-runs around the corp policy that explicitly blocks software development work because they wouldn't be able to discern that from malware.

    Ours also shot us in the head, by forcing automatic updates off (because they know better how to deploy patches than Micrsoft I guess) and then there's a ransomware attack that cripples things because they didn't realize they failed to apply security updates for two years on most systems. Fortunately enough people had been manually updating to keep things going.

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      Mine Linux don't have it

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      Let me help you:

      flatpak install flathub com.microsoft.Edge

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        What's Edge?

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        The thing you use once to download firefox, and then never again.

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          Let me help you:

          flatpak install flathub com.microsoft.Edge

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          Why would you do this to him

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            Yeah, I peeked at your moderation history after posting, it's OK, I see now this is the best I could have exspected in answer. Good day to you!

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            Hes the kind of person that gets haughty and arrogant over warnings to be safe.

            and the first person to start crying about "how did this happen, how could anybody let this happen, why didnt anyone stop this from happening!" the second they are personally fucked over by ignoring the repeated warnings they were given.

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              For anybody unaware, their new privacy notice essentially states that if you opt in to using a third party LLM within Firefox, the LLM provider will get the info that you give to the LLM.

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              Thanks for the eli5

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                people use edge? it downloads itself onto your computer without permission.

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                Honestly, it's pretty easy to dunk on edge. But it's based on the same chromium browser. They have excellent customer support. I have in the past submitted bug reports and they have followed up.
                Until now, they had pretty good privacy and options in their settings. With this v2 / v3 situation, I will have to reassess all that.

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                  Tell IT and your boss how your productivity tanked since edge disabled uBlock.

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                  This might actually reverse firefox's decline in userbase at least in the business world. Any shop that already has multi-OS management could probably insta-switch to firefox, and i'm sure that MS locked-in places could too given enough of a push by IT.

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                    Microsoft is a spineless removed.

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                    Why is it that when I see removed, it's always from lemmy.ml, is that the only instance with the filter enabled

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                      What's Edge?

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                      They get you really close but stop just before finishing.

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                        Right, you don't need extensions, because you don't need customization, because what you need is what we the corp say you need.

                        I think Web as it exists is a failed branch of evolution.

                        A networked (solved) hypertext (solved) document (solved) system - yes. A networked hypertext system with one or two unbelievably complex clients, where only enormous corps have enough resources to change something, - no. One can add steps - E2E encryption, dynamic services, scripts, all not requiring a monolithic piece of nonsense.

                        BTW, those hating Flash, I hope, do realize that its proper, paradigm-abiding replacement would be a FOSS plugin with similar goal, not what we have.

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                        I feel similarly. Javascript was made to add some functionality to documents and now we're basically running Doom in a word professor. I don't know what a better system would look like, but I'd draw a line between document-type pages and pages that you want to do more on.

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                        • S [email protected]

                          Weirdly enough, I like buying movies to encourage people to keep making the kinds of movies I enjoy watching. I have some physical media, but often times you can't find 4k versions of movies on physical media.

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                          If you rely so much on buying digital, be ready for a surprise later on down the line.

                          A lot of PlayStation users found out the hard way.

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                            Personally I keep a copy of chromium around just for Google meet. Everything else is on Firefox.

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                            I used to just use Firefox for Google Meet, but it seems they broke it somewhere along the way. Probably on purpose.

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                            • J [email protected]

                              Hmm I haven't had any issues with my university gmail, I wonder if it's that specific college?

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                              They might be using a third party authenticator to control access. My own job does that. Though I've been told we're moving to Outlook soon.

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                              • engineergaming@feddit.nlE [email protected]

                                If the disk is going to be unused/thrown out anyway - why not buy a digital copy? Its only job would be corresponding to a usable file you download anyway... I do that with Steam games.

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                                Archive the physical copy for the inevitable shutdown. No one can stop an old disc player plugged into a dumb tv.

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                                  Genuine question - isn’t their terms basically “if you use these third party services you’re subject to their terms, and also were going to collect some data to see if people actually use this feature or if it’s a waste of time?”

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                                  The Privacy Policy for a long time has been that they use your data for marketing. I'm honestly completely confused why people are always recommending it.

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                                    Archive the physical copy for the inevitable shutdown. No one can stop an old disc player plugged into a dumb tv.

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                                    But no one can take a file from my hard drives either. No need for it to be on a low-capacity disk when a thing half the size of a DVD box can fit orders of magnitude more.

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                                    • kspatlas@sopuli.xyzK [email protected]

                                      Why is it that when I see removed, it's always from lemmy.ml, is that the only instance with the filter enabled

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                                      It's the biggest one still federated with .world with that filter.

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                                        What's Edge?

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                                        The browser you use to download Firefox

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                                          Why would you do this to him

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                                          Because the best sort of shit post is one that's also informative!

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